<font color='black' size='2' face='arial'>Hey gang, BTW....trying to adapt a 2 cell TP balancer (4 wire) to a 2 cell pack with an HX balacing jack (3 wires). Anyone have any GOOD ideas as to what wires go with what on such an adapter?<br>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: mike mueller &lt;mups1953@yahoo.com&gt;<br>
To: General pattern discussion &lt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt;<br>
Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 12:06 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again<br>
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<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff; MARGIN: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; COLOR: #000; FONT-SIZE: 12px" id=AOLMsgPart_0_4fce6fce-b73b-4e92-a07b-ec6e51050794><PRE style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt"><TT> FMA Cellpro 10 is my favorite. Look for a sale. Forget all the software and 
save the money.
 Matt in my opinion sending back 3 year old lipo's is somewhat unreasonable. You 
can't expect lipo's to hold up more than 2 years at best. But that's just my 
opinion. Mike

--- On Thu, 5/6/10, <A href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com">rcmaster199@aol.com</A> &lt;<A href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com">rcmaster199@aol.com</A>&gt; wrote:

&gt; From: <A href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com">rcmaster199@aol.com</A> &lt;<A href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com">rcmaster199@aol.com</A>&gt;
&gt; Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again
&gt; To: <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>
&gt; Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 10:21 AM
&gt; For a couple hundred bucks it's
&gt; probably worth it to get a couple sets 
&gt; and try E.
&gt; 
&gt; What charger is reasonably inexpensive that will do the
&gt; job?
&gt; 
&gt; MattK
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; -----Original Message-----
&gt; From: Dave &lt;<A href="mailto:DaveL322@comcast.net">DaveL322@comcast.net</A>&gt;
&gt; To: 'General pattern discussion' &lt;<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>&gt;
&gt; Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 10:58 am
&gt; Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; " I'd also argue that to get 150 from a TP requires
&gt; excellent care, and 
&gt; good
&gt; conditions (no hard runs caused by a bad bearing or
&gt; similar)."
&gt; 
&gt; I'd make the same argument for most glow motors being used
&gt; &lt;G&gt;&nbsp; Ie, no 
&gt; dirt
&gt; or water in the fuel, proper needle settings, proper after
&gt; run, etc.
&gt; 
&gt; Dave
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; -----Original Message-----
&gt; From: <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
&gt; [<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org?">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]
&gt; On Behalf Of Atwood, 
&gt; Mark
&gt; Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 10:10 PM
&gt; To: '<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>'
&gt; Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again
&gt; 
&gt; Exactly.&nbsp; Hard NOT to try.&nbsp; I have 5 flight packs
&gt; and all seem strong.
&gt; Only have 40 cycles on a few though, so no long term data
&gt; but still, you
&gt; don't need a lot to get good value.
&gt; 
&gt; I'd also argue that to get 150 from a TP requires excellent
&gt; care, and 
&gt; good
&gt; conditions (no hard runs caused by a bad bearing or
&gt; similar).&nbsp; My 
&gt; "risk" is
&gt; lower when I'm only trying to get 50-100 cycles.
&gt; 
&gt; Not to mention that shelf life plays a role.
&gt; 
&gt; -M
&gt; --------------------------
&gt; Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; ----- Original Message -----
&gt; From: <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
&gt; &lt;<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>&gt;
&gt; To: <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>
&gt; &lt;<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>&gt;
&gt; Sent: Wed May 05 21:45:20 2010
&gt; Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again
&gt; 
&gt; Mark,,
&gt; 
&gt; Really??? less than 100$ for 10 cells?? Wow!!
&gt; 
&gt; I can't not try this now. I can really buy 4 1/2 sets for
&gt; the price of
&gt; 1 thunder power?
&gt; 
&gt; Hell my airborne 2s2p, 1760ma lipo from Radical cost more
&gt; than a 5S
&gt; zippy
&gt; 
&gt; MattK
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; -----Original Message-----
&gt; From: Ron Van Putte &lt;<A href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">vanputte@cox.net</A>&gt;
&gt; To: General pattern discussion &lt;<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>&gt;
&gt; Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 8:18 pm
&gt; Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again
&gt; 
&gt; 
&gt; I placed an order of items which were supposedly in stock,
&gt; but, between
&gt; placing the order and getting it out, one item went on
&gt; backorder, so
&gt; they didn't ship the order. I realized what had happened
&gt; and sent an
&gt; e-mail to their customer service, telling them to remove
&gt; the item from
&gt; my order and ship the rest. They did and issued a credit to
&gt; my account.
&gt; Worked for me. Yes, the prices are unbeatable.&nbsp;
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; Ron Van Putte&nbsp;
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; On May 5, 2010, at 5:26 PM, mike mueller wrote:&nbsp;
&gt; &nbsp;
&gt; &gt; 2 to 3 weeks&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; Tip:&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; Never ever place an order that has a backorder on it.
&gt; They will &gt; let
&gt; the whole think sit for months and never let you know.&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; HK's customer service is horrible.&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; Prices are un matchable. Mike&nbsp;
&gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; --- On Wed, 5/5/10, Bob Richards &lt;<A href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com">bob@toprudder.com</A>&gt;
&gt; wrote:&nbsp;
&gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; From: Bob Richards &lt;<A href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com">bob@toprudder.com</A>&gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; To: "General pattern discussion" &lt;<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>&gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 1:55 PM&nbsp;
&gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; I've ordered a couple of times and it was always less
&gt; than 2 weeks. &gt;
&gt; I always use the cheapest shipping method they offer.&nbsp;
&gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; --- On Tue, 5/4/10, Rex &lt;<A href="mailto:trexlesh@msn.com">trexlesh@msn.com</A>&gt;
&gt; wrote:&nbsp;
&gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; From: Rex &lt;<A href="mailto:trexlesh@msn.com">trexlesh@msn.com</A>&gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries again&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; To: "NSRCA-discussion" &lt;<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>&gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 7:43 PM&nbsp;
&gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &lt;!-- #yiv1222234621 #yiv1361694702 .hmmessage P {
&gt; margin:&gt;
&gt; 0px;padding:0px;} #yiv1222234621 #yiv1361694702 .hmmessage
&gt; { font-&gt;
&gt; size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} --&gt; Thanks guy... that's
&gt; what I &gt;
&gt; figured.&nbsp;
&gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; Rex&nbsp;
&gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; From: <A href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</A>&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; To: <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 19:12:40 -0400&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries
&gt; again&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; 2-3 weeks.&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; --------------------------&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; From: <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
&gt; &lt;nsrca-discussion-&gt;
&gt; <A href="mailto:bounces@lists.nsrca.org">bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>&gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; To: NSRCA-discussion &lt;<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>&gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Tue May 04 18:49:39 2010&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries
&gt; again&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Guys&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; On average, how long has it been taking to get
&gt; your battery &gt;
&gt; orders from Hobby City?&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Thanks&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Rex&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 07:08:36 -0700&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; From: <A href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com">mups1953@yahoo.com</A>&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; To: <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Batteries
&gt; again&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Zippy's are working well.&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I have 2 new Power Unlimited packs from F3A
&gt; Unlimited. They are &gt;
&gt; a higher 20C and very light 42 ounces all up. Most 20C
&gt; packs are &gt; much
&gt; heavier The power is phenomenal so far.&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; True's 12C's are 42 ounces but my 1
&gt; remaining pack is not &gt;
&gt; coming back from the winter hibernation. I know of others
&gt; with the &gt;
&gt; same issue. So at twice the price as the Zippy 15C's they
&gt; are not a &gt;
&gt; good buy. At one time the True's were a good choice but
&gt; that &gt; changed
&gt; when these packs came along.&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; My choice for this year is the Zippy's 15C's
&gt; for practice and &gt;
&gt; the PU by FU 20C's for contest flights. The PU's are at an
&gt; &gt; attractive
&gt; price point for what they do. Mike&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; --- On Tue, 5/4/10, Atwood, Mark &lt;<A href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</A>&gt;
&gt; wrote:&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; From: Atwood, Mark &lt;<A href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</A>&gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
&gt; Batteries again&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; To: "General pattern discussion"
&gt; &lt;nsrca-&gt;
&gt; <A href="mailto:discussion@lists.nsrca.org">discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>&gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 8:36 AM&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I've had similar good luck with the&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Flightmax 5000 15C packs. 2 packs weigh
&gt; in around&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 1190gms (I have pairs as low as 1170
&gt; and one as high as&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 1204gms).&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I do NOT have a lot of flights on any
&gt; yet. About 40&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; on my most used pack so far, but I have
&gt; 5 sets and all seem&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; to be running strong so far. At
&gt; under&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; $100/flight pack ($39.95 per 5s pack
&gt; plus about $10&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; shipping) it's hard not to consider
&gt; these at least for&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; practice packs. Even if they're only
&gt; good&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; for 50 flights, that's still under
&gt; $2/flight.&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I'm keeping track of my usage and will
&gt; report back later in&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the summer when I have more time on
&gt; these.&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; -Mark&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Mark Atwood&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Paragon Consulting, Inc. | President&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Phone: 440.684.3101 x102 | Fax:
&gt; 440.684.3102&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; <A href="mailto:mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com">mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com</A>&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; | <A href="http://www.paragon-inc.com/" target=_blank>www.paragon-inc.com</A>&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; From: <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; [<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org?">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Behalf Of Ron Van Putte&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:14 AM&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; To: General pattern discussion&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
&gt; Batteries again&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I am flying the 15C Zippy FlightMax
&gt; 4400s and am amazed&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; with their&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; performance. My "figure of merit" is
&gt; how well the&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; airplane does in&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the next to last maneuver in the Master
&gt; class schedule, the&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 1/2&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; square loop w/ two 1/2 rolls up. The
&gt; airplane has&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; more "authority"&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; here than with any other pack I've
&gt; flown. They are&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; light and&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; inexpensive.&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Ron Van Putte&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On May 3, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Stuart
&gt; Chale wrote:&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Since Keith brought it up, he is
&gt; selling what most&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; would say are&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the "gold standard" for pattern
&gt; packs. At least&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; more people have&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; had good luck cycle number wise
&gt; with TP packs than&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; many of the&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; others. Keith what have you
&gt; decided to use&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; instead?&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Has anyone had good luck with any
&gt; of the newer low&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; cost cells? I&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; was playing with True RC but had
&gt; to return too many&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; packs. My best&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; pack is now failing after about 60
&gt; cycles (over 1 year&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; old). Still&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; pulls well enough to practice but
&gt; comes down pretty&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; hot and I an&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; sure it is about ready to go.&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Zippy's seem to be the cheapest
&gt; right now, and the 15C&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ones are at&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; a good weight. Anyone having good
&gt; luck with&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; those?&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; How about the new TP pro lite 2's?
&gt; Are they&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; giving the cycles that&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the original Pro Lites did&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Stuart&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On 5/3/2010 9:38 PM, Keith Black
&gt; wrote:&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; For Sale: Two Thunder Power
&gt; Prolite V2 5300 5s&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; packs with only 20&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; flights (Model: TP5300-5SPL2).
&gt; Packs are wired&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; together in a 10s&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; configuration. Weight
&gt; including Dean's connector&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; is 1165 grams.&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; The packs have been treated
&gt; extremely well (I'm&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; very meticulous&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; about my equipment). Never
&gt; discharged over about&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 3300 mAh (62% of&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; capacity), and were always
&gt; stored at a storage&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; voltage of 38.5&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; volts in air-conditioned room.
&gt; Packs were&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; purchased in July, 2009.&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; The only reason I'm selling
&gt; these packs is because&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; they are the&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; only pack I have that is this
&gt; shape and I want to&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; standardize on a&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; single form factor for
&gt; mounting convenience. The&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; (recently&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; reduced) price from Thunder
&gt; Power is $419.98, I&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; will sell both 5s&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; packs for $189.00 plus
&gt; shipping. Keith Black&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&nbsp;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;
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