<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>No contest, but we just had one issued for 6 hours on a Friday. First experience with a NOTAM of this type. Several members thought it was a hoax. What a pain. I guess I can see some validity in the action.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On May 2, 2010, at 4:00 PM, <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-request@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-request@lists.nsrca.org</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Send NSRCA-discussion mailing list submissions to<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>nsrca-discussion-request@lists.nsrca.org<br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>nsrca-discussion-owner@lists.nsrca.org<br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of NSRCA-discussion digest..."<br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Fw: TFR Issued for Ann Arbor, MI - 5/1 (Bill Glaze)<br><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">"Bill Glaze" <billglaze@bellsouth.net><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">May 2, 2010 8:54:54 AM EDT<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">"General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fw: TFR Issued for Ann Arbor, MI - 5/1</b><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br></span></div><br><br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">No question about it. Typical government
overkill, (excuse the expression) by people legislating something they don't
understand, and don't want to take the time to understand.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">(Read: their nose in our business. Or, business as
usual.)</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Bill Glaze</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a title="getterflash@yahoo.com" href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com">Bob
Kane</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 30, 2010 10:59
PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fw: TFR
Issued for Ann Arbor, MI - 5/1</div>
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<td valign="top">I guess what I am struggling with is using a mechanism
design for full-scale aviation and thinking it will be effective for
model aircraft. What about the father-son (or mom or daughter) who
goes out tomorrow morning to fly something they picked up at the toy
store, and would not know the AMA from AAA or the AKC. At one extreme
nothing will happen. At the other they will be treated as a terrorist
threat.<br><br>Sorry for the rant. This just seems so much like
corporate management thinking. <br><br>Bob
Kane<br>getterflash@yahoo.com<br><br>--- On <b>Fri, 4/30/10, Bob Kane
<i><getterflash@yahoo.com></i></b> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><br>From:
Bob Kane <getterflash@yahoo.com><br>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion]
Fw: TFR Issued for Ann Arbor, MI - 5/1<br>To:
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 4:07
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<td valign="top">Has anyone ever experienced one of these issued
on a contest day? How far in advance are they
issued?<br><br>Bob Kane<br>getterflash@yahoo.com<br><br>--- On
<b>Thu, 4/29/10, AMA Webmaster
<i><webmaster@modelaircraft.org></i></b> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><br>From:
AMA Webmaster <webmaster@modelaircraft.org><br>Subject:
TFR Issued for Ann Arbor, MI - 5/1<br>To: "Robert E Kane"
<getterflash@yahoo.com><br>Date: Thursday, April 29,
2010, 4:31 PM<br><br>
<div id="yiv839503033"><p>A new FDC NOTAM/TFR has been issued for the area
surrounding Ann Arbor, MI for Saturday, 5/1, from 9:15a until
1:30p EDT. The TFR is issued for security purposes to cover
VIP movement in this area. Model aircraft operations are
prohibited in this area during the specific times of the TFR.
Please note that TFRs are subject to change with very short
notice. Check back often for the most current NOTAM/TFR
information. <br><br>Timely alerts are also available on the
web or on you cell phone at: <a href="http://twitter.com/amagov" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter.com/amagov</a>.</p><p>See the link to the TFR below for more detailed information
regarding the restrictions:</p>
<ul>
<li>Area 1 (5/1, 9:15a - 1:30p EDT)<br>(30nm radius from
Latitude: 42º14'35"N, Longitude: 83º36'40"W)
</li><li>Area 2 (5/1, 9:15a - 10:30a EDT)<br>(10nm radius from
Latitude: 42º12'59"N, Longitude: 83º21'25"W)
</li><li>Area 3 (5/1, 9:30a - 1:00p EDT)<br>(10nm radius from
Latitude: 42º15'57"N, Longitude: 83º44'55"W)
</li><li>Area 4 (5/1, 12:15p - 1:30p EDT)<br>(10nm radius from
Latitude: 42º12'59"N, Longitude: 83º21'25"W) </li></ul><p><a href="http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_0_7827.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">TFR - 0/7827</a></p><p><a href="http://02b954f.netsolhost.com/amatfr1.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Map View of the Affected
Area</a><br><br>Regards<br>Gregory Hahn<br>Technical
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