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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Not even a switcher is 100% efficient!</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>John Pavlick<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>March 01, 2010</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>10:51 AM</span></font><font
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Max volts</span></font></p>

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  style='font-size:12.0pt'>Not if it was a switching regulator. </span></font></p>
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  style='font-size:12.0pt'>John Pavlick<br>
  <br>
  --- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Mon, 3/1/10, Jay Marshall <i><span
  style='font-style:italic'>&lt;lightfoot@sc.rr.com&gt;</span></i></span></b>
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  From: Jay Marshall &lt;lightfoot@sc.rr.com&gt;<br>
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Max volts<br>
  To: &quot;'General pattern discussion'&quot;
  &lt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt;<br>
  Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 10:33 AM</span></font></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
  style='font-size:12.0pt'>The motor current x voltage drop in the regulator =
  wasted heat<br>
  <br>
  Jay Marshall<br>
  <br>
  -----Original Message-----<br>
  From: <a
  href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
  ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
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  href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
  ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]
  On Behalf Of Ron Van Putte<br>
  Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:30 AM<br>
  To: General pattern discussion<br>
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Max volts<br>
  <br>
  Never thought of that, but wouldn't the energy to regulate down the&nbsp; <br>
  42.56 volts just be dumped as heat?<br>
  <br>
  Ron<br>
  <br>
  On Mar 1, 2010, at 8:54 AM, krishlan fitzsimmons wrote:<br>
  <br>
  &gt; Couldn't we go to a higher voltage and regulate it back down? A&nbsp; <br>
  &gt; contstant 42.56v would be nice!<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; Chris<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; From: Chad Northeast &lt;<a
  href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=chad@f3acanada.org"
  ymailto="mailto:chad@f3acanada.org">chad@f3acanada.org</a>&gt;<br>
  &gt; To: <a
  href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
  ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
  &gt; Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 8:48:48 PM<br>
  &gt; Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Max volts<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; You would be at about 50% capacity at 3.85 ish volts/cell (resting&nbsp;
  <br>
  &gt; open circuit), so unless you up the capacity you will have a
  pretty&nbsp; <br>
  &gt; restricted flight time.<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; Chad<br>
  &gt;<br>
  &gt; On 10-02-28 9:25 PM, Ron Van Putte wrote:<br>
  &gt; &gt; That stirs a wild thought in my brain.&nbsp; Fully charged packs
  don't&nbsp; <br>
  &gt; stay at 4.2 volts per cell very long.&nbsp; On the other hand, once
  the&nbsp; <br>
  &gt; initial charge voltage is burned off by a constant load, the&nbsp; <br>
  &gt; voltage loss curve &quot;flattens out&quot;.&nbsp; What if you put fully
  charged&nbsp; <br>
  &gt; 6S and a 5S packs in series and &quot;burn them down&quot; to 3.869
  volts per&nbsp; <br>
  &gt; cell (a total of 42.56 volts for an 11-cell pack) so they were&nbsp; <br>
  &gt; legal for use.&nbsp; Would the voltage of this depleted 11S pack
  be&nbsp; <br>
  &gt; higher than a fully charged 10S pack at the end of a typical&nbsp; <br>
  &gt; flight?&nbsp; If the end-of-flight voltage might be significantly
  higher&nbsp; <br>
  &gt; for the 11S pack vice a 10S pack, it would be worth investigating,&nbsp;
  <br>
  &gt; even considering the extra weight of the additional cell.&nbsp; Come
  on&nbsp; <br>
  &gt; you electronic gurus, show me where I'm wrong.<br>
  &gt; &gt;<br>
  &gt; &gt; Ron Van Putte<br>
  &gt; &gt;<br>
  &gt; &gt; On Feb 28, 2010, at 10:00 PM, James Oddino wrote:<br>
  &gt; &gt;<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt; What comes after ...?&nbsp; Does it specify a load or any
  other&nbsp; <br>
  &gt; conditions?&nbsp; Is it measured during the noise test and have a&nbsp; <br>
  &gt; minimum value?<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt; Just stirring the pot, Jim O<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt; On Feb 28, 2010, at 5:21 PM, John Fuqua wrote:<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; No its not (assuming we are talking RC Aerobatics).&nbsp;
  Try page&nbsp; <br>
  &gt; RCA-2 para 4.1<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; which states &quot;Electrically-powered model aircraft are
  limited&nbsp; <br>
  &gt; to a maximum<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; of 42.56 volts..&quot;<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; From: <a
  href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
  ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; [mailto:<a
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  ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]
  On Behalf Of&nbsp; <br>
  &gt; Ron Van Putte<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:07 PM<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; To: General pattern discussion<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Max volts<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; It's in the general rules, not in the R/C section.<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; On Feb 28, 2010, at 6:50 PM, Jim Quinn wrote:<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Where can I find the rule for max volts?<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
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