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Since it's a Kansas Company, we've found that if you apply a little Jayhawk sticker on the side of your airplane--it flies better, Particularly this time of year...<BR>RS <BR>
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From: DaveL322@comcast.net<BR>To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:07:07 -0500<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Help Me Loose Weight<BR><BR>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Yes, stock Phoenix 85HV with wires is about 4.2 oz, and the new Phoenix 80HV ICE is about 3.7, and can be reduced to about 2.5 by shortening the wires.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The Phoenix ICE are good for 8S (with BEC).</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Regards,</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Richard Strickland<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, February 13, 2010 12:03 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> NSRCA<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Help Me Loose Weight</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Verdana><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I haven't weighed my HV85s--but the lit says 4.2oz with no statement about wires whereas the ICE HV 80 states 2 oz without. Certainly worth checking in my spare time... But you could for sure pick up 1+oz for around 150.00 plus you get data logging. Costs to "add lightness", huh!?<BR>RS </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Verdana><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 08:38:19 -0800<BR>From: homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com<BR>To: cjm767driver@hotmail.com; nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Help Me Loose Weight</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Chris Moon <cjm767driver@hotmail.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sat, February 13, 2010 8:35:09 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Help Me Loose Weight<BR></SPAN></FONT><BR>The ice 80HV is what he wants. It does 12S. The listed weight of 2oz is without wires and I think is just over 3oz with wires unless you find a way to make it work without wires???<BR><BR><BR>Chris<BR><BR><FONT face=Verdana><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><BR><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT></P><SPAN id=ecxecxsignature>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=ecxMsoNormal><B><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Richard Strickland <pamrich47@hotmail.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> NSRCA <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sat, February 13, 2010 8:23:52 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Help Me Loose Weight<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy"><BR>The new CC ICE HV80 only weighs 2oz compared to the HV85 at 4+.<BR>.02<BR>RS<BR> <BR>> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:45:27 -0800<BR>> From: mups1953@yahoo.com<BR>> To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Help Me Loose Weight<BR>> <BR>> Ron that's a chunk to lose. It can be done but it gets costly.<BR>> On Chris Moon's ElectricF3a Forums there is a building thread of the Sickle's from last spring. I had to shave about a pound off the Fatboy to make weight. I did it at a pretty expensive cost but I did it just the same.<BR>> http://electric-f3a.com/smf/index.php?topic=52.0<BR>> <BR>> Here's a part of 1 post<BR>> Re: Sickle build <BR>> « Reply #79 on: November 09, 2009, 06:30:19 AM » Quote Modify Remove <BR>> <BR>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Wow that's a big question. I think it's covered in the thread.<BR>> Things I changed and did.<BR>> PGB wing tube,<BR>> lightest servo's possible<BR>> I shaved of 5 ounces from the inside of the fuse mostly the nose.<BR>> I changed to much lighter landing gear.<BR>> I used a YGE controller to save 2 ounces<BR>> no switch<BR>> 800 Mil receiver pack only<BR>> CF prop<BR>> I have the weight down to 10lbs 15.5 ounces.<BR>> It ain't easy!!!! Mike<BR>> <BR>> Other ideas.<BR>> Consider the smaller AXI motor info on <A href="http://f3aunlimited.com/">F3AUnlimited.com</A><BR>> You do not need a full size Pletty in that plane for advanced. It's total overkill.<BR>> You can drop your lipo's down to 4500 mil or even smaller for advanced too. This could save up to 8 ounces.<BR>> Maybe the new Spin 75 ESC at 2 ounces.<BR>> No spinner just a rounded nut. It allows better cooling and works great.<BR>> Wheels,pants and axles add up. Think in grams and pretty soon you get there.<BR>> Servos. I ran 3421's MG!!!! in the ailerons without any problems. The Airtronics wing servos are .8 ounce and do the job too.<BR>> Linkages, wires all add up and need to be as short as possible.<BR>> You can drop your receiver lipo down to as low as a 460 Mil. No switch and a Jaccio light weight 6V regulator only.<BR>> Receivers come extrememly light now. I have a new Airtronics 6 channel full range that would fly a pattern plane that weighs under 10 grams.<BR>> Cut all un needed structure out of the airframe. Use light weight materials like CF balsa trays. Watch the weight of all your hardware. I have tail wheels that weight 8 grams<BR>> You can do it. Good luck, M²<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Ron Hansen <rcpilot@wowway.com> wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > From: Ron Hansen <rcpilot@wowway.com><BR>> > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Help Me Loose Weight<BR>> > To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> > Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 9:33 PM<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > I’m in the<BR>> > process of glassing and painting a Focus<BR>> > II. Why because this was my first attempt at glassing<BR>> > and painting and I<BR>> > thought this would be a good test bed. This will also<BR>> > be my first<BR>> > electric pattern plane. I knew going in that making<BR>> > weight would be extra<BR>> > hard in my case. If I don’t make weight I<BR>> > won’t be crushed<BR>> > but I want to give it my best shot. The following<BR>> > weights are mostly<BR>> > estimates and I haven’t settled on any of the<BR>> > equipment listed so I’m<BR>> > still open for suggestions. I will be flying<BR>> > intermediate and advanced<BR>> > next year.<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Fuse <BR>> > <BR>> > 1453<BR>> > g<BR>> > <BR>> > Left<BR>> > Wing <BR>> > <BR>> > 469<BR>> > <BR>> > Right<BR>> > Wing <BR>> > 445<BR>> > <BR>> > Canopy <BR>> > 185<BR>> > <BR>> > Cowl <BR>> > 135<BR>> > <BR>> > Elevator<BR>> > Servos(2) <BR>> > 54<BR>> > <BR>> > Rudder<BR>> > Servo <BR>> > 50<BR>> > <BR>> > Aileron<BR>> > Servos(2) <BR>> > 100<BR>> > <BR>> > Receiver <BR>> > 22<BR>> > <BR>> > JR Std.<BR>> > Switch <BR>> > 22<BR>> > <BR>> > Pletty <BR>> > 567<BR>> > <BR>> > HV85 <BR>> > 120<BR>> > <BR>> > Receiver<BR>> > Bat <BR>> > 49<BR>> > <BR>> > Main<BR>> > Bat <BR>> > 1344<BR>> > <BR>> > Wheels <BR>> > 35<BR>> > <BR>> > Std. Glass<BR>> > Gear <BR>> > 158<BR>> > <BR>> > Carbon Wing<BR>> > Tube <BR>> > 47<BR>> > <BR>> > Tru Turn<BR>> > Aluminum<BR>> > Spinner <BR>> > 72<BR>> > <BR>> > Misc. <BR>> > ????<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Total <BR>> > +5327g<BR>> > (11.74 lbs)<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Thanks<BR>> > Ron<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > -----Inline Attachment Follows-----<BR>> > <BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> > NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> > http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</SPAN></FONT></P>
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