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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Chris,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Make sure to check the length of the motors. Helio 63 was
designed around 4020-14. 14 has been dropped, but the rest are still
available.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hyperion 4020s are 36.5mm length (not including 6.5mm boss at
rear).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Hacker is longer. 12S is 2.37”, 12L is 2.75”
If the motor box is already built & attached to the fuse, he will have to
cut it to use longer motor.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Scorpion 4020 series should work good because of the short
length. Tommy S used one on Helio 63. It is 1500W max motor.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Dualsky 4240 or 4250 may work also. No sizing data
available from 2dogrc or dualsky websites.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>I haven’t had a chance to look at the actual Helio kit
even if I am a Hyperion dealer, but some of Hyperion planes come with motor box
already attached to fuse for faster finishing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>4020 series 500 ~ 900 watts motor with burst up to 1100W.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If motor box is not a problem, any of the above motors will
work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Ihncheol<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>krishlan
fitzsimmons<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] E motor choice<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I think it's best for him to get the 5s, and I think
this is his thinking, because he can use those in a 2m also. He was
thinking the Hacker A40-12L. Good motor, 1100w, 410kv. But I think
this may be too much for it. I'm wondering if the A40-12S or 14S would
be better if he gets a Hacker. 900w, 610kv. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Not sure. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Thx<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><em><b><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0000BF'>Chris
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"atwooddon@aol.com" <atwooddon@aol.com><br>
<b>To:</b> nsrca-discussion@lists..nsrca.org<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tue, January 12, 2010 10:28:11 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] E motor choice<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>900 should do it but he could buy a motor in the 1000-1100 range
and have some reserve by dropping the prop size a little or limiting the
throttle high end. Then if Chris needs more, it's there. Or, he
could use a 4S pack to start and could always move to a 5S if need be.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'>Don<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>In a message dated 1/12/2010 9:43:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com writes:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Hey Don. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Thanks for the condolences on my
plane. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>It's Chris Johnson from So
Cal's plane. He's going with 5 cell packs. The wattage you said is
about right. I think 900 would be really well actually but was asking
here for backup, as it's only going to be 4.25 lbs give or take. Do
you think he would need more than 200 watts per pound
for Intermediate and Advanced? Heck, my 14XL's (Well, 14XL now, RIP)
barely give me that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Thanks Don!<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><em><b><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#0000BF'>Chris
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font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>
"atwooddon@aol.com" <atwooddon@aol.com><br>
<b>To:</b> nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tue, January 12, 2010 9:30:21 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] E motor choice</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Probably needs 900-1100 watt range. As far as Dualsky is
concerned, the XM4250CA or XM4260CA size motors would probably work.
These motors will handle 11x6 to 15x8 props depending on battery cell
count. How much prop clearance will he have? What pack config, 4S,
5S, 6S?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>I am not familiar with Hacker or Scorpion in this size motor tho I
hear Scorpion motors have a great reputation. There is a guy on RC Groups
flying the Helios 63e plane with a Scorpion 4020-12 on the equivalent of
a 5S Lipo and says it has way more power than he needs. So, a 4S might be
about right.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>"I'm new to electrics so I need some advice. I'm running a
Scorpion 4020-12 with<br>
an Airboss 80 Elite ESC, APC 15x8e prop, on a </span><strong><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Helios</span></strong><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><strong><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>63e</span></strong><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> (60
sized) pattern ship<br>
with 6S1P A123 batteries. The 4020-12 has way more power than I need on this<br>
airplane."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>In a message dated 1/12/2010 8:39:31 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com writes:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I have a friend here in D7 that
bought a Hyperion Helios F3A 63e at the AMA show. He called me asking what
motor to use. He is thinking Hacker, Scorpion, and Dualsky. Any suggestions for
him? It is supposed to weigh 4.25 lbs all up. I have some suggestions but
thought I'd ask here for some more. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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