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<div>You have GOT TO BE KIdding. What idi....ahem, fellow pilot would make such a request?</div>
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<div>Phew!!!! I am glad i WON'T BE IN THE WINNERS CIRCLE ANY TIME SOON. I would break that scale since I weigh juuuuust a little over 6 kilos</div>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY: helvetica,arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Ronald Van Putte <vanputte@cox.net><br>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Sent: Wed, Jan 6, 2010 7:34 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weight rule, was PACSS Upgrade<br>
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<div id=AOLMsgPart_3_d99d4c09-093b-4cd9-a934-0fc3b3f9bd8c>You never know what's going to happen. For the past several years I brought a 6 KG digital scale to the Nats so John Fuqua and I could assist Dave Guerin in weighing potential trophy winners. In 2009 I was asked when my scales were last calibrated and to show the certification papers for my calibration weights. I won't be volunteering in 2010.
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<div>On Jan 6, 2010, at 5:17 PM, John Gayer wrote:</div>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">That's partially what the 0.5 Kg tolerance is for. How long does it take to weigh a plane casually? If the numbers are posted, then there is another data point. If you see a plane and like the way it flies, you can check the weight. I expect it will be a light airplane and you will get positive enforcement that "light is good". This is an important lesson for those starting out in pattern. Also, if someone is flying the same plane as I am but it's 1/2 pound lighter, I am sure going to be peppering him with questions about how he did it.<br>
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It wouldn't take any longer to weigh planes than it does to take photos for the plaques. In fact, both could be done at once with minimum time penalty.<br>
Don't you have a scale that's good to an ounce or two that you could bring to a local contest? I do.<br>
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John<br>
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<div class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">How many CDs have access to accurate scales to weigh at local contest? How many that are running contest with a minimum of help would want to weigh planes in a good environment with accurate scales in addition to all the other tasks they have to keep up with? It’s not a bad thing that planes are never weighed or measured at local contest.</SPAN></div>
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<div class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A> [<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>John Gayer<br>
<B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 06, 2010 5:06 PM<br>
<B>To:</B> General pattern discussion<br>
<B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weight rule, was PACSS Upgrade</SPAN></div>
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<div class=MsoNormal>I'll bet there are a lot of planes flying in contests that are easily a pound overweight. I can't see anyone designing planes to add a pound.<br>
Our current planes may be pigs at 5.5Kg, I agree but some of the older designs flown in lower classes that have more wing area are probably fine.<br>
I don't see much point in playing with 2 ounce increments at 2 year intervals. I definitely could not support removal of the weight criteria. Raising the limit by a pound and then weighing at local contests has a certain appeal. One way to do it would be to leave the weight at 5 Kg and then raise the tolerance to 0.5 Kg and weigh everything in sight.<br>
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Joe Lachowski wrote: </div>
<div class=MsoNormal>5.5 kilos is a flying pig in my book. I bet most planes there are very close to 5 kilos anyway to be competititive.<br>
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I prefer our current requirements, but could be persuaded to add 2 maybe 3 ozs tops in our national classes to help people save a couple of bucks. Anything more might open up a can of worms. I can support 2 ozs to see what it gains us and then reevaluate in two years. There are some out there who want to make a significantly larger jump up. I think small increments at a time is a much wiser approach. </div>
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From: <A href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net">jgghome@comcast.net</A><br>
To: <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weight rule, was PACSS Upgrade<br>
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Just to fan the flames a bit on the weight rule, I've been going over the French rulebook for pattern and they have a weight limit of 5.5 kilos for their national classes, both electric and fuel, weighed empty with a tolerance of 1%.<br>
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John<br>
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Bob Kane wrote: </div>
<PRE>Speaking of weight rule, maybe we should immortalize Ron by inventing a new parameter called the Van Putte Equivalent. It would be how much weight can be added to the upper limit of an electric pattern aircraft. It would be loosely based on battery capacity, motor watts, maximum continuous controller current, and the speed of Ron at full gallop in a vacuum. </PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE>Bob Kane</PRE><PRE><A href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com">getterflash@yahoo.com</A></PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE>--- On Wed, 1/6/10, Ronald Van Putte <A href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net"><vanputte@cox.net></A> wrote:</PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE> </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>From: Ronald Van Putte <A href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net"><vanputte@cox.net></A></PRE><PRE>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Upgrade</PRE><PRE>To: <A href="mailto:mklein25@roadrunner.com">mklein25@roadrunner.com</A>, "General pattern discussion" <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></A></PRE><PRE>Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 2:20 PM</PRE><PRE>OK, I am a marathoner, but SOME of</PRE><PRE>you whippersnackers might be able </PRE><PRE>to beat me. Most are afraid to find out, because</PRE><PRE>being whipped in a </PRE><PRE>long race by an old guy would be humiliating.</PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE>Mike - I am also an engineer and I want a piece of the</PRE><PRE>design action </PRE><PRE>on your large hamster charging wheel project.</PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE>Have we taken everyones' eyes off the airplane weight rule</PRE><PRE>change </PRE><PRE>long enough yet?</PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE>RVP</PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE>On Jan 6, 2010, at 12:58 PM, <A href="mailto:mklein25@roadrunner.com">mklein25@roadrunner.com</A></PRE><PRE>wrote:</PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE> </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>That's great news Tony! Given my Jewish</PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>heritage, I have been </PRE><PRE> </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>trying to find a less expensive way to charge</PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>batteries. I have </PRE><PRE> </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>been designing a large hamster wheel to generate</PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>power, but have </PRE><PRE> </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>been looking for someone with the stamina to run in</PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>the wheel. </PRE><PRE> </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>Looks like RVP is my man! Lord knows my fat self</PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>wouldn't get but </PRE><PRE> </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>a couple mah in a pack and I'd be dialing 911.</PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE>Give RVP his due. That man is fit as a</PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>fiddle. I sure as heck am </PRE><PRE> </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>not going to take him up on his challenge.</PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE>RVP, how tall are you so I can make sure the hamster</PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>wheel is </PRE><PRE> </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>comfortable?</PRE><PRE>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry</PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE>-----Original Message-----</PRE><PRE>From: "Tony" <A href="mailto:tony@radiosouthrc.com"><tony@radiosouthrc.com></A></PRE><PRE>Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 13:49:11</PRE><PRE>To: 'General pattern discussion'<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></A></PRE><PRE>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Upgrade</PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE>No, RVP is a Marathoner..... I wouldn't</PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>challenge him!</PRE><PRE> </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>Tony Stillman, President</PRE><PRE>Radio South, Inc.</PRE><PRE>139 Altama Connector, Box 322</PRE><PRE>Brunswick, GA 31525</PRE><PRE>1-800-962-7802</PRE><PRE><A href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com/" target=_blank>www.radiosouthrc.com</A></PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE>-----Original Message-----</PRE><PRE>From: <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A></PRE><PRE>[<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]</PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>On Behalf Of </PRE><PRE> </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>Atwood, Mark</PRE><PRE>Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 1:29 PM</PRE><PRE>To: General pattern discussion</PRE><PRE>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Upgrade</PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE>Careful guys... he's probably setting us up. He</PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>probably knows a </PRE><PRE> </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>short cut,</PRE><PRE>having seen that path before there was dirt...</PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE>Mark Atwood</PRE><PRE>Paragon Consulting, Inc. | President</PRE><PRE>5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite 130, Cleveland Ohio,</PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>44124</PRE><PRE> </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>Phone: 440.684.3101 x102 | Fax:</PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>440.684.3102</PRE><PRE> </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE><A href="mailto:mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com">mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com</A> </PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>| <A href="http://www.paragon-inc.com/" target=_blank>www.paragon-inc.com</A></PRE><PRE> </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>-----Original Message-----</PRE><PRE>From: <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A></PRE><PRE>[<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]</PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>On Behalf Of Ron </PRE><PRE> </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>Van Putte</PRE><PRE>Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:17 AM</PRE><PRE>To: General pattern discussion</PRE><PRE>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Upgrade</PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE>Any participants in this discussion who comment</PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>negatively on RVP's</PRE><PRE> </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>ancientness and show up at the 2010 Nats will be</PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>challenged to a foot</PRE><PRE> </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>race from the Farm House porch to the Site 4 scoring</PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>trailer and back.</PRE><PRE> </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>RVP</PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE>On Jan 5, 2010, at 10:00 PM, Stuart Chale wrote:</PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE> </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>Ed I was trying to make sense of your humor. </PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>Couldn't figure it</PRE><PRE> </PRE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>out. Thought it might have been a response</PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>about RVP?</PRE><PRE> </PRE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>Stuart</PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE>Ed Alt wrote:</PRE><PRE> </PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>Argh - replied to the wrong message -</PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>sorry!</PRE><PRE> </PRE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>From: Ed Alt</PRE><PRE>Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:17 PM</PRE><PRE>To: 'General pattern discussion'</PRE><PRE>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Upgrade</PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE>Something that old is filled with dried up</PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>capacitors in the power</PRE><PRE> </PRE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>From: Gene Maurice</PRE><PRE>Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 11:57 AM</PRE><PRE>To: 'General pattern discussion'</PRE><PRE>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Upgrade</PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE>John,</PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE>401 thru 409 are just identifiers that are</PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>used as the key to the</PRE><PRE> </PRE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 10:45 AM</PRE><PRE>To: General pattern discussion</PRE><PRE>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Upgrade</PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE>Gene,</PRE><PRE>The Schedule Maintenance appears to allow only</PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>schedules between</PRE><PRE> </PRE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:32 AM</PRE><PRE>To: General pattern discussion</PRE><PRE>Cc: Bruce Underwood; Ed Hartley</PRE><PRE>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Upgrade</PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE>Happy New Year, Gene!!!</PRE><PRE> </PRE><PRE>The SPA schedule will remain the same for</PRE><PRE> </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>2010. We will probably</PRE><PRE> </PRE>
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