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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Sorry for being too brief &#8211; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>EDF is Electric Ducted Fan.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dave (Lockhart)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Vicente &quot;Vince&quot; Bortone<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, January 01, 2010
10:11 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
 pattern discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Weight limit in AMA classes</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>Dave,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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font-family:Arial;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:black'>Someone has to ask first.&nbsp; Probably you are
waiting now.&nbsp; What is EDF?&nbsp; <br>
<br>
Vicente &quot;Vince&quot; Bortone<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: &quot;Dave&quot; &lt;DaveL322@comcast.net&gt;<br>
To: &quot;<st1:PersonName w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>&quot;
&lt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt;<br>
Sent: Friday, January 1, 2010 8:58:03 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weight limit in AMA classes<br>
<br>
Turbines could be cool!!!! &nbsp;How about EDF??<br>
<br>
Dave<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org<br>
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Atwood, Mark<br>
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 9:41 PM<br>
To: 'nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org'<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weight limit in AMA classes<br>
<br>
I tried flying squirrels but after numerous labor conflicts over who gets to<br>
do the flying I was forced to make an executive decision and make a change.<br>
<br>
<br>
Unfortunately the pecan/stick method, while providing adequate power, was<br>
unsustainable for long sequences. Moreover, only the steroid squirrels were<br>
able to endure the back to back practice flights without shorting their<br>
overall life cycle. <br>
<br>
Anyone wanna try a Turbine?<br>
--------------------------<br>
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld<br>
<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org<br>
&lt;nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org&gt;<br>
To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>
&lt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt;<br>
Sent: Fri Jan 01 21:45:19 2010<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weight limit in AMA classes<br>
<br>
You need to use pecans not steroids. Squirrels will do anything for <br>
pecans and the only additional weight penalty is one pecan on a stick. <br>
Of course you do need to reward the squirrel with extras after the <br>
flight which does not count against your weight limit. Also a switch to <br>
flying squirrels would be a plus. Then you actually get some lift from <br>
from your propulsion unit.<br>
<br>
Atwood, Mark wrote:<br>
&gt; I think we ought to make a weight change to encourage squirril power.
&nbsp;Its<br>
&quot;green&quot; with biodegradable emissions, but right now I can only get
adequate<br>
power with the heavier bulky steriod enhanced grey squirrils which make me<br>
overweight ... <br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --------------------------<br>
&gt; Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ----- Original Message -----<br>
&gt; From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org<br>
&lt;nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org&gt;<br>
&gt; To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>
&lt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt;<br>
&gt; Sent: Fri Jan 01 20:47:46 2010<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weight limit in AMA classes<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Making weight with an SAP-180 is easier than with a YS 170 CDI. &nbsp;The
power<br>
doesn't compare, but from a weight perspective, it's no real issue.<br>
&gt; &nbsp;<br>
&gt; Ed<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; From: Daniel McLalin &lt;mailto:dmclalin@gmail.com&gt; &nbsp;<br>
&gt; Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 8:35 PM<br>
&gt; To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>
&lt;mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt; &nbsp;<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weight limit in AMA classes<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;John,<br>
&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
&gt; &nbsp;<br>
&gt; I just happened to read the discussion on RCU about the SAP 140 and it<br>
occurred to me that maybe this is why raising the weight limit should be<br>
considered. &nbsp;This does not mean I agree, but just for thought.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;,
electrics want a weight break because their fuel tanks are<br>
heavy but their fuel is light; because two strokes aren't competitive any<br>
more we ought to have a high minimum weight for 4-strokes and electrics to<br>
level the playing field; and I want a weight break because I added 4 oz when<br>
I put ignition on my YS's.<br>
&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Pandora's box is no
problem compared to changing pattern rules.<br>
&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jon Lowe<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;From: Daniel McLalin
&lt;dmclalin@gmail.com&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;To:
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Sent: Fri, Jan 1, 2010
5:41 pm<br>
&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Subject:
[NSRCA-discussion] Weight limit in AMA classes<br>
&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Maybe if the weight limit
was raised gas engines would become viable<br>
for pattern?<br>
&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-- <br>
&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Regards,<br>
&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Daniel McLalin<br>
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