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<DIV>No worries Daniel, hope I didn't come across wrong. I was merely trying to say that the list can be quite brutal on this subject. Feel free to discuss anything here. Just didn't want you to take a beating as I figured you were somewhat new or you would have seen this discussed here. Some people are dead set against change, when change is how we got to where we are now. Nothing wrong with this though. </DIV>
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<DIV>I think it's important that those of us who have been around the list remember that new people join all the time and don't know what has been discussed. But they see something on RCU, and find the list. </DIV>
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<DIV>Take care. <BR> </DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Daniel McLalin <dmclalin@gmail.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Fri, January 1, 2010 7:12:29 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weight limit in AMA classes<BR></FONT><BR>
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<DIV>I was referring to <STRONG>Dave Burton</STRONG> <EM>Fri Dec 11 12:42:24 AKST 2009 where he </EM>submitted a rules proposal to completely eliminate the 11 lb. Weight limit in AMA pattern classes. I wasn't suggesting to change anything. I'm a NUB.<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 9:55 PM, krishlan fitzsimmons <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com">homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>There is a lot of good discussion (and some silly responses) a month or two ago on this. Perhaps you are new to the list. Maybe you could look up the back issues. There is pretty much nothing said here that isn't covered in the thread on RCU though. If you feel the need to voice your opinion RCU is probably the better venue for it IMO. Good luck!</DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> John Gayer <<A href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net">jgghome@comcast..net</A>>
<DIV class=im><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> General pattern discussion <<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR></DIV><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Fri, January 1, 2010 6:45:19 PM
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<DIV class=h5><BR>You need to use pecans not steroids. Squirrels will do anything for pecans and the only additional weight penalty is one pecan on a stick. Of course you do need to reward the squirrel with extras after the flight which does not count against your weight limit. Also a switch to flying squirrels would be a plus. Then you actually get some lift from from your propulsion unit.<BR><BR>Atwood, Mark wrote:<BR>> I think we ought to make a weight change to encourage squirril power. Its "green" with biodegradable emissions, but right now I can only get adequate power with the heavier bulky steriod enhanced grey squirrils which make me overweight ... <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> --------------------------<BR>> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> From: <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A> <<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>> To: General pattern discussion <<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>> Sent: Fri Jan 01 20:47:46 2010<BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weight limit in AMA classes<BR>> <BR>> Making weight with an SAP-180 is easier than with a YS 170 CDI. The power doesn’t compare, but from a weight perspective, it's no real issue.<BR>> Ed<BR>> <BR>> From: Daniel McLalin <mailto:<A href="mailto:dmclalin@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:dmclalin@gmail.com">dmclalin@gmail.com</A>> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 8:35 PM<BR>> To: General pattern discussion <mailto:<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weight limit in AMA classes<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> John,<BR>> <BR>> I just happened to read the discussion on RCU about the SAP 140 and it occurred to me that maybe this is why raising the weight limit should be considered. This does not mean I agree, but just for thought.<BR>> <BR>> , electrics want a weight break because their fuel tanks are heavy but their fuel is light; because two strokes aren't competitive any more we ought to have a high minimum weight for 4-strokes and
electrics to level the playing field; and I want a weight break because I added 4 oz when I put ignition on my YS's.<BR>> <BR>> Pandora's box is no problem compared to changing pattern rules.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Jon Lowe<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: Daniel McLalin <<A href="mailto:dmclalin@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:dmclalin@gmail.com">dmclalin@gmail.com</A>><BR>> To: <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>> Sent: Fri, Jan 1, 2010 5:41 pm<BR>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Weight limit in AMA classes<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
Maybe if the weight limit was raised gas engines would become viable for pattern?<BR>> -- Regards,<BR>> Daniel McLalin<BR>> ____________________<BR>> Of all the things I ever lost........................................ I miss my mind the most! <BR>> <A href="http://www.firehow.com/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>www.firehow.com</A> <http://www.firehow.com/> <A href="http://www.premierbowlers.com/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>www.premierbowlers.com</A> <http://www.premierbowlers.com/> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> <BR>> <A
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