<div>Mark,</div>
<div>No offense has been taken.  I also saw the humor in the weight restrictions, which is why I mentioned gas engines. <br><br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Atwood, Mark <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">Its been brought to my attention that the person who re-initiated this topic is new.  I have to apologize. It was not my intent to offend or seem condescending in my reply. I was just trying to have a little fun with the topic since its been discussed so intently in the past.<br>
<br>Please accept my apologies.<br><br>-Mark<br>
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<div class="im">Sent: Fri Jan 01 22:13:03 2010<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weight limit in AMA classes<br><br></div>
<div class="im">Sorry for being too brief –<br><br><br><br>EDF is Electric Ducted Fan.<br><br><br><br>Dave (Lockhart)<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>________________________________<br><br>From: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] On Behalf Of Vicente &quot;Vince&quot; Bortone<br>
</div>Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 10:11 PM<br>To: General pattern discussion<br>
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<div class="im">Dave,<br><br><br><br>Someone has to ask first.  Probably you are waiting now.  What is EDF?<br><br>Vicente &quot;Vince&quot; Bortone<br><br></div>
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<div class="im">To: &quot;General pattern discussion&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>&gt;<br></div>
<div class="im">Sent: Friday, January 1, 2010 8:58:03 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central<br></div>
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<div class="im">Turbines could be cool!!!!  How about EDF??<br><br>Dave<br><br></div>
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<div class="im">[mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] On Behalf Of Atwood, Mark<br></div>
<div class="im">Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 9:41 PM<br>To: &#39;<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>&#39;<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weight limit in AMA classes<br>
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<div class="im">I tried flying squirrels but after numerous labor conflicts over who gets to<br>do the flying I was forced to make an executive decision and make a change.<br><br><br>Unfortunately the pecan/stick method, while providing adequate power, was<br>
unsustainable for long sequences. Moreover, only the steroid squirrels were<br>able to endure the back to back practice flights without shorting their<br>overall life cycle.<br><br>Anyone wanna try a Turbine?<br>--------------------------<br>
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<div class="im">Sent: Fri Jan 01 21:45:19 2010<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weight limit in AMA classes<br><br></div>
<div class="im">You need to use pecans not steroids. Squirrels will do anything for<br>pecans and the only additional weight penalty is one pecan on a stick.<br>Of course you do need to reward the squirrel with extras after the<br>
flight which does not count against your weight limit. Also a switch to<br>flying squirrels would be a plus. Then you actually get some lift from<br>from your propulsion unit.<br><br></div>
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<div class="h5">Atwood, Mark wrote:<br>&gt; I think we ought to make a weight change to encourage squirril power.  Its<br>&quot;green&quot; with biodegradable emissions, but right now I can only get adequate<br>power with the heavier bulky steriod enhanced grey squirrils which make me<br>
overweight ...<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; --------------------------<br>&gt; Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; ----- Original Message -----<br>&gt; From: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
&lt;<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>&gt;<br>&gt; To: General pattern discussion &lt;<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Sent: Fri Jan 01 20:47:46 2010<br>&gt; Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weight limit in AMA classes<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Making weight with an SAP-180 is easier than with a YS 170 CDI.  The power<br>doesn&#39;t compare, but from a weight perspective, it&#39;s no real issue.<br>
&gt;<br>&gt; Ed<br>&gt;<br>&gt; From: Daniel McLalin &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:dmclalin@gmail.com">dmclalin@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>&gt; Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 8:35 PM<br>&gt; To: General pattern discussion &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weight limit in AMA classes<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;                 John,<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I just happened to read the discussion on RCU about the SAP 140 and it<br>occurred to me that maybe this is why raising the weight limit should be<br>
considered.  This does not mean I agree, but just for thought.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;                 , electrics want a weight break because their fuel tanks are<br>heavy but their fuel is light; because two strokes aren&#39;t competitive any<br>
more we ought to have a high minimum weight for 4-strokes and electrics to<br>level the playing field; and I want a weight break because I added 4 oz when<br>I put ignition on my YS&#39;s.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;         Pandora&#39;s box is no problem compared to changing pattern rules.<br>
&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;         Jon Lowe<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;         -----Original Message-----<br>&gt;         From: Daniel McLalin &lt;<a href="mailto:dmclalin@gmail.com">dmclalin@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>&gt;         To: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
&gt;         Sent: Fri, Jan 1, 2010 5:41 pm<br>&gt;         Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Weight limit in AMA classes<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;         Maybe if the weight limit was raised gas engines would become viable<br>for pattern?<br>
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