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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Vince:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>There's a whole thread on this engine on RCU.
I'm also covering additional details in an upcoming KFactor.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Ed</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=vicenterc@comcast.net href="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net">Vicente
"Vince" Bortone</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 13, 2009 10:14
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] This
email list is flawed in my opinion.</DIV>
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<P>Ed,</P>
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<P>What about power and weight? It will be interesting to see results on
the Syssa 180. </P>
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<P>Vicente "Vince" Bortone<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Ed
Alt" <<A href="mailto:ed_alt@hotmail.com">ed_alt@hotmail.com</A>><BR>To:
"General pattern discussion" <<A
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The Syssa SAP 180 vibration isn't any greater
than a 140RX. It's a nicely balanced engine.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Ed</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=vicenterc@comcast.net href="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net"
target=_blank>Vicente "Vince" Bortone</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank>General pattern
discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 13, 2009 9:31
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] This
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Correct.
However, fuel cost would make a difference if we could use gasoline.
After my experience, I don't think gasoline engines available in that time
were viable option for pattern for higher classes. However, it
could work for lower classes. I am not sure what gasoline engines
manufacturers are offering to increase power today. Gasoline engines
for sure are more reliable in the low run than glow
engines. Another issue, vibration of gasoline
engines requires special attention but is similar to the situation we
have when using glow engines. <BR><BR>Vicente "Vince"
Bortone<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: CHV69@aol.com<BR>To:
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2009 8:11:24
AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] This
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<DIV>The Cost for the ZDZ was more than the OS 1.60 by more then twice as
much. Right?</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 12/13/2009 8:49:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
vicenterc@comcast.net writes:</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=#000000 size=3 face=Arial>It
will be very interesting to see your results. I had the chance to
build and fly the Abbra with ZDZ 40. I was able to comparare the
same plane with OS160 back-to-back. Clearly the ZDZ 40
was behind in power (or power-to-weight ratio) when compared
with the OS 160 when doing the Master schedule of that time. I am
sure that less fuel consumption with less BTU content means less
power. The Abbra with the ZDZ 40 was ~3-4 oz over 11
lbs. The OS 160 Abbra was 9.8 lbs. I am not sure now what the
new gasoline engines manufactures are doing to increase the power. I
believe that an improvement in the design of gas engines is required to
make it usable for
pattern. </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></FONT><BR>_______________________________________________
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