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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Phil:<br>
My point was that I would LOVE to fly some of the old models in a pattern
format. SPA is a good venue for that. It just seems that SPA has gone a
direction that many wish it had not, as they would be involved in SPA today. Every
now and then an e-mail comes across my desk asking me why I am not involved.
The reason has always been the same. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have made my choice not to participate
in SPA.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>139 Altama Connector, <st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street
w:st="on">Box</st1:Street> 322</st1:address></span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>, <st1:State
w:st="on">GA</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">31525</st1:PostalCode></span></font></st1:place><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Phil Spelt<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 25, 2009
10:37 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] <st1:State
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Alabama</st1:place></st1:State> Bound</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Well, Guys,<br>
<br>
I was preparing a response to Ron Van Putte, but it appears this is not the
venue for that. Everyone is free to choose with whom to associate, and
while we in SPA are sorry to have lost the people who have chosen not to fly
with us, that was/is their choice. If you check with Jason Shulman, you
might find a different perspective.<br>
<br>
I won't go into the many discussions I have had with fellow SPAers about the
direction of AMA pattern, as directed by the NSRCA -- but they are frequent,
and those of us having them choose not to fly AMA pattern - but we don't
publicly criticize it, either. I judged several rounds at an AMA meet
last season, and while I really like the turn around part, the judging
reinforced my decision to fly SPA, only.<br>
<br>
BTW, if anyone is interested in some 2-meter stuff (engines and airframes) you
can email me privately...it would be great stuff @ a reasonable price for entry
into 2-meter pattern, and up through Advanced.<br>
<br>
At 10:23 AM 11/25/2009, you wrote:<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>That’s the reason I quite SPA
also… 4-cycles!! There is not much challenge flying the old pattern
with a overpowered (90 4c) engine. That was what made it hard! The scavenge-pot
60’s didn’t really have enough power, so you had to FLY the
airplane…. If they are allowing 90 4c engines, why not allow ANY power
plant!<br>
<br>
Tony Stillman, President<br>
Radio South, Inc.<br>
139 Altama Connector, <st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on">Box</st1:Street>
322</st1:address><br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Brunswick</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">GA</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">31525</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><br>
1-800-962-7802<br>
<a href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com/" eudora=autourl>www.radiosouthrc.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" eudora=autourl>
mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Pete Cosky<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 25, 2009
10:20 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">jpavlick@idseng.com</st1:PersonName>;
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] <st1:State
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Alabama</st1:place></st1:State> Bound<br>
</span></font> <br>
I'm with you John. When I was into racing anything vintage had to
be....well...vintage.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>From: <a
href="mailto:jpavlick@idseng.com">John Pavlick</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>To: <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009
10:13 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] <st1:State
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Alabama</st1:place></st1:State> Bound</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Electrics in SPA? Jeez, that's kind of hard to
stomach. Next they're going to allow electronic fuel-injection and anti-lock
brakes in Vintage Sports Car Racing. LOL<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>John Pavlick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>--- On Wed, 11/25/09, Jerry Combs <<a
href="mailto:jcombs1947@att.net">jcombs1947@att.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>From: Jerry Combs <<a
href="mailto:jcombs1947@att.net">jcombs1947@att.net</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Alabama</st1:place></st1:State> Bound<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>To: "<st1:PersonName w:st="on">General pattern
discussion</st1:PersonName>" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 9:50 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I don't understand the 13" prop bit either.
On my Axi 4130-20 on 6 cells a 13" prop gives me around 500 watts.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Jerry<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Scott, What is the reason behind a 13 inch prop limit
for electric? There<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>isn't any limit on prop sizes for IC engines is there?
A flyer with an IC<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>engine searches for the best prop size to the
particular plane and engine<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>combo, it seems that electric flyers should have the
same flexibility.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dave Burton <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p></x-sigsep><b><i><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'><x-sigsep>--> </span></font></i></b><b><i><font
color=maroon face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:maroon;font-weight:
bold;font-style:italic'>There are only two types of aircraft -- fighters and
targets.<br>
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</span></font></i></b>Phil Spelt, Past President, Knox County Radio Control
Society, Inc.<br>
URL: <a href="http://www.kcrctn.com/"
eudora=autourl>http://www.kcrctn.com<br>
</a>AMA--1294, Scientific Leader Member, SPA--177<br>
My URL: <a
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