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Years ago, I was told by a gas guy with "Phillips", that white gas was simply gas without the lead additive...<BR>
I had no reason to doubt him as he was in the business. I didn't really get any particulars at the time.<BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Remember, (or, really, be informed) that the white gas I used in the mid-1940's came out of a pump at a small gas station near our house. It came out of the same type pumps that were used to pump automobile gas; in fact, it was in the same row as the rest of the pumps. It seemed to work perfectly for my purpose of the (then) spark ignition Ohlsson & Rice engines. And, even then, Coleman fuel was considered by folks to be not white gas,but something entirely different. As a kid, I was never told the difference, if, even then, the "adults" knew the difference, or even if there was a difference. I don't know, to this day.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Bill</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:01 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I am not sure what you are calling "White Gas". If that means Coleman fuel, there may be a problem...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>In the mid 1970's I had the need to run a large outboard motor on Colman fuel. When mixed with the appropriate oil the fuel worked fine.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Several years later I had a prolem trying to run a Coleman catalytic heater on new Coleman fuel. It just would not work. As near as I could determine</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>the Coleman fuel had been changed to Naptha. At that point, I found another way to solve my immediate problem and never revisted the Coleman fuel</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>question. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The point: Better seek recent experience with Coleman fule before counting on it!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>John Ferrell W8CCW<BR> <BR>"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue."<BR>-Barry Goldwater<BR>"You don't get harmony when everybody sings the same note."<BR>-Doug Floyd<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>We used to use NOTHING BUT white gas in our engines--with a mix of 70 wt. oil (also called by some, differential grease) at ratio of 3/1 or 4/1. I'm talking about ignition Ohlsson .60's and .23's as well as all the other contemporary engines. Long time ago.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 21, 2009 8:32 AM</DIV>
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<DIV>I remember reading (Clarence Lee, I think) that detonation due to lower octane is not a problem in the smaller engines. Something about flame propogation... Of course, this is the same person that said for years to use low nitro, low percentage oil in four-strokes, and also not to run them inverted. :-) Of course, I've known people to use white gas in their ignition engines and never have a problem.</DIV>
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<DIV>I've been told NOT to use 100LL fuel. Again, there are people using it seemingly without problems. </DIV>
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<DIV>I've heard so much conflicting information that I don't know what to believe. Unless I can run the engine with some on-board sensors to measure the performance, temps, etc, I think I'll stick with the manufacturer's recommendation.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 11/20/09, brett terry <I><brett.terry@gmail.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV id=ecxyiv1607032244>Some people use it, and it smells good. However it has an octane rating of somewhere around a 66-69. This will almost guarantee detonation problems on a pipe.<BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=ecxgmail_quote>On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Wayne Galligan <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wgalligan@att.net" rel=nofollow>wgalligan@att.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Anyone use white gas? And does it have the same power as regular gasoline just not all the additives?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Wayne Galligan<BR></DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT color=black size=2 face=arial>Avgas..... Pleasant smell. A little pricy at 4.95$ per gallon. (VBG)<BR><BR><BR></FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV><BR>-----Inline Attachment Follows-----<BR><BR>
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