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<DIV>That stuff weighs a ton and is no longer needed to fuel proof the airframe.</DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Ron Van Putte <vanputte@cox.net><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Fri, November 6, 2009 12:29:33 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] CA Models Eclipse<BR></FONT><BR>I have two 2500 gram calibration weights. On my electronic scale, they "weigh" 5008 grams. The fuselage (with landing gear and wheels) is 3750 grams; the stabs (with stab tube) are 259 grams; the wings (with wing tube) are 998 grams. That's a total of 5007 grams, so it actually weighs 4999 grams. Remember, this airplane is all painted.<BR><BR>Ron<BR><BR>On Nov 6, 2009, at 11:15 AM, krishlan fitzsimmons wrote:<BR><BR>> Ron,<BR>> <BR>> You sure your scale is accurate (Heck, am I sure mine is?)? I'm putting together an
Eclipse arf for a friend with a heavy Turnigy motor and heavy motor mount, a heavy Turnigy ESC, the stock wheel pants, heavy wheels, TP 5300's and it's at 4950. Most of it is put together now, all pieces weighed though.. He'll be overweight by the end of it I'm sure as he will run a heavier rec pack, Rhino 4900's, and so forth, but, he used heavier components. I know with stuff that I use he could be under with it. I built a Eclipse arc that was well under.<BR>> <BR>> Seeing as this plane was built for glow, I'm surprised to see how close this one is. Sorry yours is a lil heavier! Bummer as it's a nice plane!<BR>> <BR>> Chris<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: Anthony Frackowiak <<A href="mailto:frackowiak@sbcglobal.net" ymailto="mailto:frackowiak@sbcglobal.net">frackowiak@sbcglobal.net</A>><BR>> To: <A href="mailto:jpavlick@idseng.com" ymailto="mailto:jpavlick@idseng.com">jpavlick@idseng.com</A>; General
pattern discussion <<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>> Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:51:53 AM<BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] CA Models Eclipse<BR>> <BR>> Just a perfect example of what is wrong with the current weight rules.<BR>> <BR>> Tony<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 8:05 AM, John Pavlick wrote:<BR>> <BR>>> Ron,<BR>>> What are you using for an Rx battery? Regulator? Wheels? Don't overlook the little things. You only need to save 1/2 an ounce 32 times. VBG<BR>>> <BR>>> John Pavlick<BR>>> <BR>>> --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Ron Van Putte <<A href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net" ymailto="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">vanputte@cox.net</A>> wrote:<BR>>> <BR>>> From: Ron Van Putte <<A href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net"
ymailto="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">vanputte@cox.net</A>><BR>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] CA Models Eclipse<BR>>> To: "General pattern discussion" <<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>>> Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 10:18 AM<BR>>> <BR>>> After further reflection, I couldn't use two 6S packs with lower capacity; it would exceed AMA's limit of 42 volts on batteries.<BR>>> <BR>>> Ron VP<BR>>> <BR>>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Ron Van Putte wrote:<BR>>> <BR>>> > No matter how I fudge the data, it still comes out at least a pound heavy.<BR>>> ><BR>>> > Ron<BR>>> ><BR>>> > On Nov 6, 2009, at 8:46 AM, Jerry Stebbins wrote:<BR>>> ><BR>>> >> Ron, have you looked at 6s packs at lower mah. Jerry<BR>>>
><BR>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Thompson" <<A href="mailto:kthompson56@satx.rr.com" ymailto="mailto:kthompson56@satx.rr.com">kthompson56@satx.rr.com</A>><BR>>> >> To: "General pattern discussion" <<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>>> >> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 6:32 PM<BR>>> >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] CA Models Eclipse<BR>>> >><BR>>> >><BR>>> >>> Man I wish I had the cash for that plane...<BR>>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Van Putte" <<A href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net" ymailto="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">vanputte@cox.net</A>><BR>>> >>> To: "General pattern discussion" <<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>>> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 1:40 PM<BR>>> >>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] CA Models Eclipse<BR>>> >>>> I bought a beautiful receiver-ready CA Models Eclipse from Mike Wingo, hoping to convert it to electric power. It is an all-painted airplane; no MonoKote/UltraCote/etc. It is complete, except for the receiver and is fitted with Futaba digital servos. Power is an OS 1.40RX, with appropriate header/pipe. The only problem I have with it is that it weighs 5 kg. After doing the math, I cannot figure out how to convert it to electric power and keep the weight at/under 5 kg. So, I want to sell it for what I paid for it: $900 + shipping, if necessary, I can provide additional details/pictures for anyone who's interested.<BR>>> >>>>
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