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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Matt:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Thanks--I'll give it a try. But, I'll admit
that I'd mix my fuel with snake oil if I thought it might help.
Frustration reigns supreme. I should be practicing, and I'm trying to keep
the engine from spitting off parts. Sigh.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Bill</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mjfrederick@cox.net
href="mailto:mjfrederick@cox.net">mjfrederick@cox.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:52
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Looking
For Props & Header</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0">I ran an NMP header on a 140 DZ for a couple years with no
issues whatsoever. As most people are aware, the 140 DZ had some of the
toughest vibration to tame of any of the YS engines. Here's what I did (no, I
did not use any Permatex): Install one extra copper gasket (I had heard the
issue may have been with the threaded piece bottoming out in the engine head),
and I also re-tightened the header as tight as I possibly could after getting
the engine up to running temp (something to do with differential expansion of
all the different metals used to mount the headers). I never once had the
header come loose, even when the Genesis did a triple lindy into the base of a
huge oak tree. The head wasn't atached to the engine anymore, but I'll be
damned if that NMP header wasn't as tight as ever (twisted, but still
tight).</FONT></DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"><BR></FONT>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0">Matt</FONT></DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Verdana
KERNING="0" LETTERSPACING="0"><BR></FONT>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0">On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Bill Glaze
wrote:</FONT></DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"><BR></FONT>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"> <FONT face=Arial>In my case, it's a fairly simple
problem. The 1.40L vibrates so much, that the stud unscrews from
the head, leaving the header dangling in space alongside the exhaust
port. I have about a foot of Teflon tubing between the outlet of
the header, and the inlet of the Hatori pipe. I also have their (NMP)
header brace in place to try to help stabilize the header.
</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0">The engine has already, after about 6 flights, broken
a Johnson Header; that's why I am trying the NMP. I got the last
NMP Central had in stock, and they said that the person who was making them
is not doing so any more. (That's what I was told, anyway.)
The Hatori pipe is sitting on one mount, about halfway back on the pipe,
and the whole outfit is free to move back and forth along with the
engine movement. I had hoped that, with the entire mess moving, it
would permit the stud to stay screwed in the head. I'm worried
lest the stud strip the threads in the head. The instructions say
that "some people have had the header loosen" and to try a certain type
of Permatex form-a-gasket material. I've used this stuff before
when I had a racing engine business, but I certainly never used it in
this type of application. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0">It seems to me that the entire problem is caused by
the excessive engine vibration that the 1.40L is known for. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0">Any help? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0">Bill Glaze </FONT></DIV>
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LETTERSPACING="0">----- Original Message ----- <FONT size=2
face=Arial></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"><B>From: </B><FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:troy@troynewman.net" target=""><U>Troy Newman</U></A><A
href="mailto:troy@troynewman.net" target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"><B>To: </B><FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target=""><U>General pattern
discussion</U></A><A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"><B>Sent: </B>Wednesday, November 04, 2009
5:39 PM <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"><B>Subject: </B>Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Looking For Props & Header <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana
KERNING="0" LETTERSPACING="0"><BR></FONT>
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LETTERSPACING="0"><A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></DIV>
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LETTERSPACING="0">I dont know what you mean by will it stay
attached? <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"> <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0">The new header is a wrap around style
header like the previous NMP and the Hatori 822 style
headers. <FONT color=#3333ff><A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"> <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0">All of the 120-170 engines have the same
head configuration (meaning same angle) and same
thread size. SO the new header will fit all 120-170 engines.
<FONT color=#3333ff><A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"> <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0">There is one exception. The 120AC has the
air box on the back of the head. This prevents the use of
the wrap around style headers on this engine. Other than
that they are all the same. <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"> <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0">The NMP header was a really good header
for the application. When we were using Teflon tubing to
connect the header to the pipe it was excellent. The problem
was Hatori went to the newer style pipes that the header slides inside of
the neck of the pipe with the o-ring. The aluminum tubing
used on the NMP header was not as bullet proof in this
application. Remember the Teflon when hot would flex. Now
the header and the pipe are attached to each other. The
header slides inside the pipe and the result is there is
still movement but the stress on the thin wall aluminum
piping is higher. Breaking, and the header would get a grove
worn in it. Actually the o-ring would pinch the aluminum
tubing to a smaller diameter and the header-pipe combo would leak. The
added stress of vibration and the direct connection many
folks would break the header tubing. <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"> <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0">The new header is similar to the Hatori in
terms of connection to the pipe. So that swedging (
shrinking of the dia at the o-ring) problem and the
leaking should be solved. In my setup its working well on the
proto-type headers. Next issue is the tubing being stronger
to take the stress of the direct connection. The solution is
kind of unique and is working well. Some more testing and
maybe a few tweaks and its going to be a very good
replacement for the Hatori 822 and 823. <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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LETTERSPACING="0"> <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0">Troy <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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LETTERSPACING="0"> <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"> <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"> <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"><B>From:
</B>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Bill Glaze </FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"><B>Sent: </B>Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:05 AM
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"><B>To: </B>General pattern discussion </FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"><B>Subject: </B>Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Looking For Props & Header <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"> <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0">Troy: <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0">Will the new header stay attached to the
1.40 L? Bill Glaze <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0">----- Original Message -----
<FONT color=#3333ff><A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"><B>From: </B><FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:troy@troynewman.net" target=""><U>Troy Newman</U></A><A
href="mailto:troy@troynewman.net" target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"><B>To: </B><FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target=""><U>General
pattern discussion</U></A><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"><B>Sent: </B>Wednesday,
November 04, 2009 12:35 AM <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"><B>Subject: </B>Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Looking For Props & Header <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"> <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0">I dont believe there is such
a prop made as the 18.1-11 Narrow. It doesnt
exist. I may be wrong but I have been involved with running and testing
the APC props in the 18.1 series and WPN
series. There is a prop that is designated
as just 18-11 and this has a narrower blade than
the 18.1-11. The 18.1 series of props have
a very wide blade. The 18-11 is more like a
17-13 or 17-12 in terms of blade shape but its 18in dia and
11 pitch. <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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LETTERSPACING="0"> <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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LETTERSPACING="0">I know there is a 16.5-12 I
just pulled one out in my box-o-props and it has
a profile like a narrow prop very similar to the
17-10N
however it doesnt have the designation
as 16.5-12 narrow. Its just called the 16.5-12. If
you handed it to me with the name scratched off
and said it was a 16.5-12 I would have said it
was a Narrow. Same goes for the 18-11 regular
its a narrow essentially as well. <FONT
color=#3333ff><A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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LETTERSPACING="0"> <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0">I dont know for sure why the
W designation or the N for narrow is left
off of some props and added to others. I think it has a lot to do with
the equations and program that is used to create
the prop profile. <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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LETTERSPACING="0"> <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0">To sum up the props APC has
the prop if it is or has been produced. I
dont think Fred throws any of the molds away. So if a prop was produced
at one time it might be possible with some
convincing to get some of them produced again. I
have been to the factory where the props are produced.
It amazing how they are produced, and the
quantity and quality of props produced for a
given size. <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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LETTERSPACING="0"> <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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LETTERSPACING="0">You may not be asking for it
by the proper name/designation
.the 16.5-12 (is
actually like a narrow) and the 18-11 is like a narrow version of
the 18.1-11 <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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LETTERSPACING="0"> <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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LETTERSPACING="0">As for Headers
..the new
header is in testing and is performing well. The
jury is still out, we are working hard to insure
the bugs are worked out. Right things are going
well and real progress has been made in the last
couple months. It will be sooner rather than
later from the looks of things on the new
headers. <FONT color=#3333ff><A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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LETTERSPACING="0"> <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0">I hope this helps answer the
questions <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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LETTERSPACING="0"> <FONT color=#3333ff><A
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LETTERSPACING="0"> <FONT color=#3333ff><A
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target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0">Troy Newman <FONT
color=#3333ff><A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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LETTERSPACING="0"> <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"><B>From:
</B>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>rjo626@aol.com </FONT></DIV>
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LETTERSPACING="0"><B>Sent: </B>Tuesday, November 03, 2009
8:20 PM </FONT></DIV>
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LETTERSPACING="0"><B>To: </B>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org </FONT></DIV>
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LETTERSPACING="0"><B>Subject: </B>[NSRCA-discussion] Looking For Props
& Header <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0"> <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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LETTERSPACING="0"> Hello
all! I'm looking for APC 18.1x11 narrow, and 16.5x12
narrow. Also, <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0">anyone have a good NMP pattern
header they're willing to part with / sell? I've <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Verdana KERNING="0"
LETTERSPACING="0">tried Central Hobbies and APC
with no luck. Thanks a bunch! <FONT
color=#3333ff><A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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LETTERSPACING="0"> <FONT color=#3333ff><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
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LETTERSPACING="0">
Later! <FONT color=#3333ff><A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=""></A></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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LETTERSPACING="0">
RJO <FONT color=#3333ff><A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
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