<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Try NiMh eneloop cells. They are 2000 mah. I am not sure how much the 12X requires. If the battery cassette is equal to the 10X they will fit inside the cassette. These cells behaves similar to LiPo in regard the self discharge when not used. <BR><BR>Vicente "Vince" Bortone<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: glmiller3@suddenlink.net<BR>To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2009 6:34:42 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 12X Failure<BR><BR>Troy,<BR><BR>I just actually read the battery bulletin linked in you note. I like the 12X battery even less now.<BR><BR>So I guess in Japan they have 10 hours to sit around their shop continuously monitoring their transmitter batteries temperature and intermittently checking it's actual voltage....well welcome to america- I don't!<BR><BR>Any one know of a good replacement battery system for the 12 X?<BR><BR>G<BR>---- Troy Newman <troy@troynewman.net> wrote: <BR><BR>=============<BR>Try a different TX battery.<BR><BR>I have heard reports of this screen flashing issue with bad TX<BR>batteries. It works fine in the system menu because it's not<BR>transmitting. As soon as it tries to transmit the battery can't handle<BR>the load. If you have a 10X the battery will fit in the 12X and work<BR>just fine.<BR><BR>The PC program is not data safe. Data Safe as a product was a Horizon<BR>hobby product that was an aftermarket product that saved the program as<BR>a file on your PC....It was not a JR Japan product.<BR><BR>The 12X comes with a program that allows you to back up and edit the<BR>programs on the PC. It came with your 12X as a free accessory. It is 12X<BR>specific. Works very very well.<BR><BR>The reason data safe doesn't work is because the 12X was not around when<BR>Data Safe or Data Safe Ultra was written by a 3rd party vendor.<BR><BR>By the way the 12X program only does the 12X, but is very cool in that<BR>you can see and print all settings, and even edit setting right on the<BR>PC then load it back into the TX.<BR><BR><BR>JR Japan has another program that has the same look and feel as the 12X<BR>program, but it works with the older radios. It looks exactly the same<BR>but because it goes backwards in compatibility it doesn't do the 12X.<BR><BR>Onto your 12X it's not a bad a idea to have HH check it out, but I would<BR>bet it's a battery issue. On another note the charger that comes with<BR>your 12X is not a peak detection charger...even though it kind of looks<BR>like one and the manual seems to imply that it is. This charger should<BR>not be used on the 12X battery for than 10hrs. The battery will become<BR>very hot and will shorten its life. A bulletin was issues earlier this<BR>year regarding the charger.<BR><BR>http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Support.aspx?ProdID=JRP12001<BR><BR>If your charger was left on for 2-3 days like some folks have reported<BR>before the light when solid, and or the battery got very hot this could<BR>be the reason for the battery failure. Contact HH and they will be able<BR>to help you. In the mean time try a good 10X battery cartridge if you<BR>have one. If not let me know offline and I'll send you mine from my 10X<BR>to hold you over or at least get everything off the 12X you have.<BR><BR>Troy Newman<BR>Team JR / Horizon Hobby<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR></div></body></html>