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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Not to sound like a malcontent: The "Advancement" rule
carries about as much importance as the "weight" rule as far as I can see. At
least at most local contests. When was the last time you had to weigh your
airplane and / or tell the CD how many Advancement points you had accumulated?
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Don't sweat this stuff guys. Unless you're trying to win
the NAT's, just have fun playing with your toy airplanes. Jeez.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>John Pavlick<BR><A
href="http://www.idseng.com">http://www.idseng.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jlachow@hotmail.com href="mailto:jlachow@hotmail.com">Joe
Lachowski</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:25
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules
proposal 11-6 question</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>You know we have a 4 yr sliding scale in effect
from the last rules cycle. Has anybody looked at how it has affected
oneself in this regard. Just curious. It maybe good enough without makng
anymore changes?<BR>
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From: <A
href="mailto:jnhiller@earthlink.net">jnhiller@earthlink.net</A><BR>To: <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>Date:
Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:16:37 -0700<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules
proposal 11-6 question<BR><BR>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal><SPAN class=ecxEmailStyle22><FONT face=Arial color=navy
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I disagree. If were
to have any kind of mandatory advancement, it needs to be based on the
individual's performance not contest placement.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jim</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>michael s
harrison<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday,
October 22, 2009 12:44 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
'General pattern discussion'<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules
proposal 11-6 question</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Calibri
color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">I personally
don’t think the mandatory system should be abandoned, but it should be
overhauled. I would recommend something on the order of 5 points for
1<SUP>st</SUP>, 3 for 2<SUP>nd</SUP> and 1 for 3<SUP>rd</SUP> for a total of
maybe 50 points, with the stipulation that you will have to have 2 first place
finishes for required advancement. That scenario would give the pilot
1<SUP>st</SUP> place at 10 contests before movement is required. If the
pilot never places first, he would never be required to advance. Another
stipulation is that a minimum of 3 pilots compete. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Calibri
color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">I believe that
pilots that are truly competitive will move up voluntarily-most of the
time. However, a safeguard- or check and balance system is warranted,
IMO.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Mike</SPAN></FONT></P>
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Anthony Abdullah<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:54
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> General pattern
discussion<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Rules proposal 11-6 question</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma
color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Jim,</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">You make some
excellent points and in large part I agree with you. I don't, however, see how
your response has addressed the food for thought questions I presented. Let me
put it a different way that might make more sense.</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Masters is the
"accepted" destination class, but every pattern pilot has his own destination
class based on a number of factors. In a perfect world every
individual internally defines thier destination class, and I think that is
what you are saying below. Know your abilities and life situation and fly in
the appropriate class for your skills until you feel the need to move up. What
I was suggesting we think about is addressing some of the external factors
that push people to a class they are not prepared for or interested
in.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">At the end of
the day, it feels like I am closing the door after the horse is already
out of the barn because this issue has already been addressed, for the most
part. I think removing forced advancement and allowing movement up and
down between classes will solve those problems.</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">So, like the
old Saturday Night Live sketch.... Nevermind. </SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> J N Hiller
<jnhiller@earthlink.net><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> General pattern discussion
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:58:49
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Rules proposal 11-6 question</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
class=ecxemailstyle18><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I think the right approach is on
the way, dump mandatory advancement and allow moving back and change the
advanced sequence every two years.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
class=ecxemailstyle18><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Like most voluntary activities we
name our own poison. I voluntarily moved to masters because I was getting too
complacent flying advanced. If we had gotten a new sequence for 09-10 I
probably would have stayed. The gage I use is my contest (all 5 or 6 rounds)
raw score average. By mid season the second year it was dropping a clear
indication that my interest was dropping and needed additional
challenges.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
class=ecxemailstyle18><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">For most of us proficiency flying
pattern includes a lot of experience / stick time flying in all conditions
over an extended period of time and has nothing to do with how many times you
beat someone that's having a bad day or can't get out to practice. Some of us
still have work and family commitments that take
priority.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
class=ecxemailstyle18><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Stay in advanced until you feel
the need for something more challenging or through several sequence changes.
Each new sequence teaches new lessons and offers valuable experience and the
opportunity to fly a sequence your comfortable with in adverse weather
conditions. Flying in adverse conditions only compounds the difficulty when
moving up. For example, maintaining figure M geometry, track and position in a
15-20 MPH wind is about twice as hard and probably 4 times as hard as flying
the 6-side outside loop on a windy day. </SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT
color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
class=ecxemailstyle18><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As for the pile up in masters ask
them how long they have flown pattern been in masters. Probably half have
flown with and against each other from pre-turnaround and likely will
continue. AMA masters class is and has been a destination class for a very
long time not a steeping stone to FAI. In years past FAI team selection was
through a masters selection program and FAI wasn't even flown at most local
contests. Adding FAI at local contests allowed them to fly a single event /
schedule only effectively reducing masters class numbers.
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
class=ecxemailstyle18><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The bottom line is, fly and
compete where you are comfortable and judge your ability by your own scores as
a percent of maximum K rather than on how well someone else flies or doesn't
fly.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
class=ecxemailstyle18><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sorry about getting on my soap box
but I really like the challenge of flying pattern and traveling around flying
with old and new friends. It never gets any easier but it is always fun and I
wouldn't have it any other way.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P>
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class=ecxemailstyle18><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jim Hiller
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P>
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color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT
color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Anthony Abdullah<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:47
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> General pattern
discussion<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Rules proposal 11-6 question</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P>
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color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Here is a silly
question:</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><BR>Is the log
jam of people in Masters as much a function of it being "acceptable"
to park there as much as anything else? I am a "relatively competent" advanced
pilot, I don't win the class but I am usually competitive and have on occasion
played the part of spoiler, I already feel the pressure to move up to masters
even though I still have not mastered advanced. Would there be more people in
advanced if it felt ok to stay there until you felt completely comfortable
with all elements of the class? would that equlize participant
distribution in other classes? I know a couple of people in D4 that are
doing well in advanced but not consistantly dominant. If they move up to
masters they will almost certainly have less fun and will absolutely
struggle at contests. Should they be allowed to stay in advanced forever if
they like? Perhaps that is the limit of their natural flying ability or the
highest level they can ascend to given their life situation (work, practice
time, budget, etc). On the other side, I spoke with D5 pilot this summer
that said "I should not be in masters, I moved up because it was time to but i
can't really fly this pattern as well as I need to, I just don't have enough
time to practice". </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P>
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color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">I don't know
what the right approach is but we should consider the entire picture
as we look for answers. The problem may now be with the sequences at all,
but with the general feeling that a particular pilot has to move up before
they are ready. I guess that is the old advancement discussion
again.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P>
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color=black size=3><SPAN
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color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Thanks</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P>
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color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Anthony</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Stuart Chale
<schale@optonline.net><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> General pattern discussion
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:26:02
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Rules proposal 11-6 question<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR>8 to 1 middle of
the 9th.<BR>In regards to the sequences, I am probably in the minority but I
think the lower classes need to be a little harder. Probably even
Masters. Most areas of the country are seeing a bunching up in
Masters. I like it, makes for good competition in that class. I do
not want to come in second in my class (and last) :)<BR>Perhaps if the classes
were a little more difficult people would not move up as quickly. Put
more difficult rolling maneuvers in advanced, add some integrated rolling
maneuvers into Masters. Would there be more fliers in the lower classes,
would the classes be more even? Don't know. Is this what we
want?<BR><BR>Should someone be "prepared" to go to the next higher class from
their current class? There needs to be an increase in difficulty which
there is. You should have to work at the next class when moving
up.<BR><BR>Rollers, love to watch them done well, but can't do them well
:) They really do use a lot of real estate though and sort of goes
against the idea of decreased space use that we have with turnaround.
IMAC has the same problem. They have a score for proper airspace use
which includes a reduced footprint but has rollers in all 3 or the upper
classes :)<BR><BR>Stuart
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