<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">"Old" phonograph? I still listen to "old" LP's. Maybe we can divert the snap discussion to analogue .vs. digital ;)<br><br>Bob Kane<br>
getterflash@yahoo.com<br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 10/20/09, Bill Glaze <i><billglaze@bellsouth.net></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Bill Glaze <billglaze@bellsouth.net><br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] YS points of interest<br>To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 10:41 AM<br><br><div id="yiv1686051102">
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">The cam lubrication is interesting, as well as
helpful.. The highest unit loading in the usual poppet valve engine, is at
the cam/lifter junction. (Remeber the old phonograph with the needle; the
unit loading at the tip of the needle was as much as 5,000 # psi.)</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Bill Glaze</font></div>
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<a rel="nofollow" title="Tom.Koenig@actewagl.com.au" ymailto="mailto:Tom.Koenig@actewagl.com.au" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=Tom.Koenig@actewagl.com.au">Koenig, Tom</a> </div>
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discussion'</a> </div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="862573604-20102009"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Thanks Chris, but its hardly worth an article????...... I'm
far from a YS genius. I have come across a few in my time however.....just
look for the guys with the blown off props and spinners, deadsticks and
always 're-tuning' their motor (usually in the pits). Nothing
scares me more than some peanut 'tuning' a YS at full song in the
pits!!</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="862573604-20102009"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="862573604-20102009"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">I'm sure we all know these experts ...trust me...they
exist, even down here!!! But funnily, the guys that couldnt get a YS to run
are now also having trouble with electric. Interesting?
hehehehehehehehehe</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="862573604-20102009"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="862573604-20102009"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Now the CDI....keep those Boxes cool. It <u>MAY</u>
help....but the CDI is another story which I am only just learning to
read!</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="862573604-20102009"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="862573604-20102009"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Maybe I'll take a few pics and scribble something about what
I do...</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="862573604-20102009"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="862573604-20102009"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Tom</font></span></div><br>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>krishlan
fitzsimmons<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 20 October 2009 2:01 PM<br><b>To:</b>
General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] YS points
of interest<br></font><br></div>
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<div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">Good
tip's Tom!<br><br>Would make a nice Kfactor article. hint hint <img src="http://mail.yimg.com/a/i/mesg/tsmileys2/03.gif"><br>
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<div><strong><em><font color="#0000bf" face="comic sans ms" size="3">Chris
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> "Koenig, Tom"
<Tom.Koenig@actewagl.com.au><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> NSRCA
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Mon, October 19, 2009 6:49:33
PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
[NSRCA-discussion] YS points of interest<br></font><br>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009">Hi
all,</span></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009"></span></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009">Just a little
topic diverter, for all us 'oilers'.</span></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009"></span></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009">Some background.
Generally in Aus, most people mix their own fuel as it is simply too cost
prohibitive to use pre-mix. 99.9% use the Coolpower oils. We have the three
types available; Blue (SV), Red (LV) and Purple(MV).</span></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009"></span></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009">I have just
rebuilt 3 different YS motors,all running on different oils. Nitro content is
25-30% depending on motor and application, Nitro brand is VP.
The methanol was Spectro C analysed for purity and water content (
perfect results)</span></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009"></span></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009">I have found: (
your mileage may vary <VBG>)</span></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009"></span></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009">The LV oil
produces marginally ( empirically tested) power, however significant corrosion
and wear was found in the motors using this oil. Cam was badly worn
also.</span></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009"></span></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009">The standard Blue
oil motor had by far the least wear, virtually no corrosion and only
small expected, standard wear ( liner, bearing play and ring gaps. Cam was
perfect)</span></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009"></span></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009">The MV oil, which
as expected, was somewhere in between the two.</span></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009"></span></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009">Conclusion for my
own future use:</span></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009"></span></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009">I will cease to
use the Heli oil in my motors as of now, unless I need to milk a motor for
every last bit of power OR if I am happy to rebuild more
often.</span></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009"></span></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009">The MV does seem
like a good compromise, but I'm happy with the Blue oil. Its the original, and
in my opinion only, still the best general performing oils of
all.</span></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009"></span></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009">Also-IF any of you
are actually still using the YS, here are a few other tips. I have two brand
new 170's-one CDI and one Glow. Both motors had virtually NO oil in the cam
area out of the box. I would recommend that you open the cam cover and squirt
it full of oil before you start these for the first time. I feel it helps and
may just prevent undue cam wear.</span></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009"></span></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009">I always strip,
rework and Ultra sonically clean my motors before I run them-so I do this
anyway, but for those that don't want to go to these extents-The oiling of the
cam is easily done.</span></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009">Another little
tip-lap the valves in. I just use one of those eraser tipped pencils, cyno'd
to the valve, and then spin the pencil with some fine valve grinding paste on
the seat. This works a treat, every time.( obviously, disassemble the head
first)</span></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009"></span></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009">Now feel free to
practice those snaps that we talked about ,with that little powerhouse of
an engine <G></span></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009"></span></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009">Tom</span></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009"></span></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009"></span></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="586021501-20102009"></span></font> </div><br>
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