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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Joe:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>It isn't always necessary to use the emergency
process. In the past, we've used the "urgent" proposal to pretty good
effect. (If it's still valid.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Bill Glaze</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jlachow@hotmail.com href="mailto:jlachow@hotmail.com">Joe
Lachowski</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Discussion List</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 19, 2009 9:50
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules
proposal 11-6 question</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>We have been instructed to proceed on the premise that the
sequences and maneuver descriptions will be removed from the AMA rule book. My
understanding is that the majority of the contest board is already in favor of
this. That being the case, we still have plenty of time to finalize
them before 2011. We also have an out with the Emergency Proposal
process I believe?<BR> <BR>
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From: frackowiak@sbcglobal.net<BR>To:
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:02:38
-0700<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules proposal 11-6
question<BR><BR>Is it not true that changes to the sequences are part of the
new rules proposals that are supposed to be submitted now? If so, then they
should be posted ASAP so that everyone can see them and provide input to their
contest board member. And at this time of the year many will not be able to
test fly them to see what they think!
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>BTW, who put in Intermediate the upwind stall turn with a downwind top
hat? Worst sequence of maneuvers I've ever seen.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Tony</DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>On Oct 19, 2009, at 5:36 PM, Joe Lachowski wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" class=ecxhmmessage>Derek
asked for volunteers quite some time ago. There were not a lot of
volunteers. The sequences will be published in the K-factor and
elsewhere. When, I do not know. As soon as we are sure the Aresti
diagrams that Tom Miller is putting together are correct for both
directions, the sequences will be forwarded to Derek. Dave Lockhart,
Richard Lewis, Verne Koester, Bill Glaze and myself have been the
primary people involved. We have test flown them and had some others try
them out for input, as well. I'm sure everyone won't be totally happy with
some of the stuff. So what else is new.<g><BR> <BR> A short
and long Masters sequence was also put together because it was not known
which way we were heading. Personally, I like the longer sequence
we put together. We rearranged the existing Sportsman sequence to flow
better, gave the Intermediate guys something
new, and hopefully addressed the gripes( ie inverted
exits and entrys) the Advanced guys have about their sequence that we
had heard over the last year or so. I'm sure Derek will chime in on what has
transpired. Just be patient guys.<BR>
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<BR>From:<SPAN class=ecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
href="mailto:frackowiak@sbcglobal.net">frackowiak@sbcglobal.net</A><BR>To:<SPAN
class=ecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>Date:
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:10:15 -0700<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules
proposal 11-6 question<BR><BR>Same here. I have heard nothing and seen
nothing about changes to any of the AMA sequences. BTW, who is on the
"Sequence Committee"?<BR><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Thanks!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Tony Frackowiak</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>On Oct 19, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Joe Dunnaway wrote</DIV>
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<DIV>How about letting the rest of us know what the sequences are. I
would like to see them.<BR><BR>Joe Dunnaway<BR><BR>Bill Glaze wrote:
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Dave:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I posted and announced the presence of all
the sequences at the contests in Winston, (April and Oct.) and they were
widely looked at. I told the folks that Joe had included both a
long and short Masters, and that he, personally preferred the long, but
that the Sequence Committee was looking for input. So, they
haven't been a secret inD2, anyway.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Bill Glaze</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Member, Sequence Committee.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(228,228,228); FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND-POSITION: 0% 50%"><B>From:</B><SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline" title=burtona@atmc.net
href="mailto:burtona@atmc.net">Dave Burton</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B><SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'General pattern
discussion'</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B><SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Monday, October 19,
2009 3:37 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B><SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Rules proposal 11-6 question</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=ecxecxSection1>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Where
are all the new sequences for 2011 published for us to review? I
haven’t seen them. Don’t they have to be submitted as rules proposals
for the Contest Board? I hope the Masters sequence adopted
is shorter than the one we are flying now. Also eliminating judging
takeoff and landing would give judges a little more of a break between
flyers. Spending most of my time at a contest judging a large
contingent of Masters flyers is not my idea of fun
anymore.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Dave
Burton</SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
class=ecxecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A><SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN>[<A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
class=ecxecxmoz-txt-link-freetext
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]<SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><B>On Behalf Of<SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN></B>Joe
Lachowski<BR><B>Sent:</B><SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Monday, October 19,
2009 3:24 PM<BR><B>To:</B><SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN>NSRCA Discussion
List<BR><B>Subject:</B><SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Rules proposal 11-6 question</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">If we go
this route, I for one will definitely quit.<BR> <BR> We
already have new sequences designed for 2011 for all the classes.
And we have been adopting a maneuver here and
there from the FAI sequences. They will be presented in the
K-factor sometime in the future. There are even two different
sequences put together for Masters. One is the traditional length and
the other is the same length as FAI.<BR> <BR>The new FAI sequence
for next year is a real good example not to flat
out adopt a P sequence as it is.<BR> </SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:<SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
class=ecxecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:burtona@atmc.net">burtona@atmc.net</A><BR>To:<SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
class=ecxecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>Date:
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:56:40 -0400<BR>CC:<SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
class=ecxecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:tom_babs@bellsouth.net">tom_babs@bellsouth.net</A><BR>Subject:
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules proposal 11-6 question</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">It
seems to me that adopting the FAI “P” schedule for the Masters class
with “changes” is not the way to go. A better alternative IMO is to
fly FAI P schedule under FAI rules as a separate class. Those of
us with some age remember when this was done years ago as “D” expert
and “D” Novice classes. As I remember AMA class “D” was the FAI event
back then. This would have the advantages of two classes flying
under the same rules and the benefits of more flyers/judges
familiar with the same rules and maneuvers. It would also eliminate
the work involved in coming up with a new Masters sequence every three
or so years as a new schedule would be automatically be invoked FAI
changed. I’d like to see a proposal for this change submitted to the
Contest Board.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Dave
Burton</SPAN><SPAN
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
class=ecxecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A><SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN>[<A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
class=ecxecxmoz-txt-link-freetext
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]<SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><B>On Behalf Of<SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN></B>Vicente "Vince"
Bortone<BR><B>Sent:</B><SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Monday, October 19,
2009 11:29 AM<BR><B>To:</B><SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN>General pattern
discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B><SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Rules proposal 11-6 question</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hi
Lance,</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Just
to clarify. I am not the only one making this proposal.
Don Ramsey and Charlie Rock helped me to put it together. I
am going to try to respond to your questions below. Please read
below in<SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif">bold. <SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></STRONG>Thanks
for bringing this discussion to the list. <SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR><BR>Vicente "Vince"
Bortone<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Lance Van
Nostrand"<SPAN class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
class=ecxecxmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:patterndude@tx.rr.com"><patterndude@tx.rr.com></A><BR>To:
"NSRCA Mailing List"<SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
class=ecxecxmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></A><BR>Sent:
Sunday, October 18, 2009 11:51:30 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada
Central<BR>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules proposal 11-6
question</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I
know official discussion hasn't started but this list is one of the
good vetting forums. Vince proposed Masters flying FAI P, which
is clear<SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif">(this is for sure the most
important statement)</SPAN></STRONG>, but if the logic behind the
proposal as written causes confusion it may make a less convincing
case. <SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif">Good point. We assumed
that was easy for someone that is very familiar to pattern to digest
the intent of the proposal. Your conclusions are correct.
We are assuming that the current procedures we use to design the
Master schedule are not changed. We adopt the
current FAI P schedule with the appropriate changes to
suit the Master class. This is the reason why we didn't try
to discuss other details. </SPAN></STRONG>For example, it
says "there is an evident pile up f pilots in the Masters class" but
never clearly states how flying the same sequence would change
that. He may be implying that people will more freely move
between classes to balance the lines because they are flying a similar
sequence but the sequences may not be identical and the judging rules
are not identical. <STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif">Correct. You actually saw
what happened in Tulsa this year. There were 10 pilots in
Masters and you decided to divide the group in two and five flew
Masters and five flew FAI. This also happened already in
other local contest around KC. It happens at Fort Scott contest
also. Pilots will be more willing to do this we fly
the same schedule. <SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></STRONG>At
another point it says "This will make judging of both classes very
accurate" but doesn't address the obvious differences in judging
criteria between AMA and FAI, which is the current burden that Masters
and FAI pilots currently bear when the fly one class and judge the
other.<STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif"><SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN>I am sure that we will
agree that it will be a lot easier to deal with these differences if
we fly the same schedules. The proposal intent is not to address
the differences in judging criteria between AMA and FAI.
I believe that it will become natural as we start to fly
the same schedule and the differences will go away with
time. </SPAN></STRONG>Finally, there is no exact wording
proposed on the form where it is expected, but later in the logic it
refers to the idea of replacing some FAI maneuvers where
appropriate. <SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif">We are assuming that the
current procedure to design the schedules is still in
place. The committee will check the current FAI P schedule and
proposed a final one with the changes to make it suitable for
Masters. For example, P11 the only portion I will change is the
integrated half loop on the figure M. I will
suggest something like 2 of 4 or 1/2 roll on bottom to replace
the integrated 1/2 roll. I believe that all other maneuvers are
suitable for Masters. <SPAN
class=ecxecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></STRONG>Without
exact wording, its not clear how this is done, or if the maneuver
descriptions will be re-written in the AMA rules, or referenced to the
FAI descriptions like the sequence. <STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif">The committee will decide
whatever is appropriate. If they feel that the FAI descriptions
are appropiate we could use it as is.</SPAN></STRONG> Oh,
and how does AMA deal with the fact that FAI changes schedules in odd
years?<STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif"> We
will need to follow FAI schedule. I think that this is
very possible and should not be a
problem. </SPAN></STRONG></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">My
intent is simply to point out aspects that detract from it's
thoroughness. I do not yet have a stance on the
issue.<STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif"> We
put this together just taking at the 2008 Nats. I remember that
I have to judge FAI and I never had the chance to judge FAI before the
Nats. I was trying to study the FAI schedule at the same time
that I was trying to fly my own contest. This is clearly an
additional pressure on the contestant. If this proposal pass
it will make our life easier at the local contest and when we
judging at the Nats or any other contest. Also, clearly will
make the judging level very high because Masters and FAI pilots will
be very familiar with the schedules we fly and the details requires to
judge each of the maneuvers. Finally, the balance in local
contest will be easier to fix since we will more willing to fly
FAI when required.
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