<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:x =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:excel" xmlns:p =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:powerpoint" xmlns:a =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:access" xmlns:dt =
"uuid:C2F41010-65B3-11d1-A29F-00AA00C14882" xmlns:s =
"uuid:BDC6E3F0-6DA3-11d1-A2A3-00AA00C14882" xmlns:rs =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:rowset" xmlns:z = "#RowsetSchema" xmlns:b =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:publisher" xmlns:ss =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:spreadsheet" xmlns:c =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:component:spreadsheet" xmlns:odc =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:odc" xmlns:oa =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:activation" xmlns:html =
"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:q =
"http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" xmlns:rtc =
"http://microsoft.com/officenet/conferencing" XMLNS:D = "DAV:" XMLNS:Repl =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/repl/" xmlns:mt =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/meetings/" xmlns:x2 =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/excel/2003/xml" xmlns:ppda =
"http://www.passport.com/NameSpace.xsd" xmlns:ois =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/ois/" xmlns:dir =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/directory/" xmlns:ds =
"http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig#" xmlns:dsp =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/dsp" xmlns:udc =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc" xmlns:xsd =
"http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:sub =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/2002/1/alerts/" xmlns:ec =
"http://www.w3.org/2001/04/xmlenc#" xmlns:sp =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/" xmlns:sps =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/" xmlns:xsi =
"http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:udcs =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/soap" xmlns:udcxf =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/xmlfile" xmlns:udcp2p =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/parttopart" xmlns:wf =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/workflow/" xmlns:dsss =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2006/digsig-setup" xmlns:dssi =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2006/digsig" xmlns:mdssi =
"http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/package/2006/digital-signature" xmlns:mver =
"http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/markup-compatibility/2006" xmlns:m =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns:mrels =
"http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/package/2006/relationships" xmlns:spwp =
"http://microsoft.com/sharepoint/webpartpages" xmlns:ex12t =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/types" xmlns:ex12m =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/messages" xmlns:pptsl =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/SlideLibrary/" xmlns:spsl =
"http://microsoft.com/webservices/SharePointPortalServer/PublishedLinksService"
XMLNS:Z = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" xmlns:st = ""><HEAD>
<META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type>
<META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.18813"><!--[if !mso]>
<STYLE>v\:* {
BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)
}
o\:* {
BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)
}
w\:* {
BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)
}
.shape {
BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)
}
</STYLE>
<![endif]-->
<STYLE>
<!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:"Arial Unicode MS";
panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Verdana;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:"\@Arial Unicode MS";
panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
p
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0in;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0in;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
p.ecxmsonormal, li.ecxmsonormal, div.ecxmsonormal
{mso-style-name:ecxmsonormal;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0in;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0in;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
p.ecxmsonormalindent, li.ecxmsonormalindent, div.ecxmsonormalindent
{mso-style-name:ecxmsonormalindent;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0in;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0in;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
p.ecxmsoautosig, li.ecxmsoautosig, div.ecxmsoautosig
{mso-style-name:ecxmsoautosig;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0in;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0in;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
span.ecxmsohyperlink
{mso-style-name:ecxmsohyperlink;}
span.ecxmsohyperlinkfollowed
{mso-style-name:ecxmsohyperlinkfollowed;}
span.ecxemailstyle19
{mso-style-name:ecxemailstyle19;}
span.ecxemailstyle20
{mso-style-name:ecxemailstyle20;}
span.ecxemailstyle22
{mso-style-name:ecxemailstyle22;}
p.ecxmsonormal1, li.ecxmsonormal1, div.ecxmsonormal1
{mso-style-name:ecxmsonormal1;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0in;
margin-bottom:0in;
margin-left:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
p.ecxmsonormalindent1, li.ecxmsonormalindent1, div.ecxmsonormalindent1
{mso-style-name:ecxmsonormalindent1;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0in;
margin-bottom:0in;
margin-left:.5in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
span.ecxmsohyperlink1
{mso-style-name:ecxmsohyperlink1;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
span.ecxmsohyperlinkfollowed1
{mso-style-name:ecxmsohyperlinkfollowed1;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
p.ecxmsoautosig1, li.ecxmsoautosig1, div.ecxmsoautosig1
{mso-style-name:ecxmsoautosig1;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0in;
margin-bottom:0in;
margin-left:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
span.ecxemailstyle191
{mso-style-name:ecxemailstyle191;
color:#1F497D;}
span.ecxemailstyle201
{mso-style-name:ecxemailstyle201;
color:#1F497D;}
span.ecxemailstyle221
{mso-style-name:ecxemailstyle221;
color:navy;}
span.ecxecxemailstyle22
{mso-style-name:ecxecxemailstyle22;}
span.EmailStyle36
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;}
@page Section1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.Section1
{page:Section1;}
-->
</STYLE>
<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></HEAD>
<BODY lang=EN-US link=blue bgColor=white vLink=purple>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 face=Arial>It seems 'we' had that same fetish at the
Worlds too... 'legally' we weren't supposed to have 3 1/2 Cubans
though.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR><A
href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com">www.shulmanaviation.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.composite-arf.com">www.composite-arf.com</A><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=atwoodm@paragon-inc.com href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">Atwood,
Mark</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 19, 2009 3:54
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules
proposal 11-6 question</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I
just want to know who on the FAI sequence committee has the Cuban 8
fetish?? In addition to all the turn around Cuban variants, now we
have one and a half full reverse Cubans in the center followed by…hmmmm…lets
do an inverted half Cuban just to keep the flow going…<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Mark
Atwood</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Paragon
Consulting, Inc.</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt"> </SPAN><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">|</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt"> President</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt">5885 Landerbrook Drive
Suite 130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt">Phone:
440.684.3101 x102 </SPAN><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">|</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt"> Fax:
440.684.3102</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1351f3; FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt"><A
href="mailto:mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com">mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com</A>
</SPAN><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">|</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1351f3; FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt"><A
href="http://www.paragon-inc.com/">www.paragon-inc.com</A></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<DIV
style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt">
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>J
Shu<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 19, 2009 3:59 PM<BR><B>To:</B> General
pattern discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules proposal
11-6 question<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy">Great. Ok, continue on
with the fixes to Masters... ;)</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR><A
href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com">www.shulmanaviation.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.composite-arf.com">www.composite-arf.com</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: navy 1.5pt solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in">
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">----- Original
Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=jlachow@hotmail.com href="mailto:jlachow@hotmail.com">Joe
Lachowski</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Discussion List</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Monday, October
19, 2009 3:56 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Rules proposal 11-6 question<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Jason, we
rearranged things to fix the flow issue.<BR> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" class=MsoNormal align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
<HR id=stopSpelling align=center SIZE=2 width="100%">
</SPAN></DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From: <A
href="mailto:jshulman@cfl.rr.com">jshulman@cfl.rr.com</A><BR>To: <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>Date:
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:46:25 -0400<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules
proposal 11-6 question<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy">Can Sportsman also be
changed into something that resembles a sequence and not a cool graphic (if
looked at as an aresti). It's harder than Intermediate cause it doesn't
flow. Hmmm... reminds me of some of the stuff in P/F-11</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR><A
href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com/">www.shulmanaviation.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.composite-arf.com/">www.composite-arf.com</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: navy 1.5pt solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 4pt; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in">
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">----- Original
Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=jlachow@hotmail.com href="mailto:jlachow@hotmail.com">Joe
Lachowski</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Discussion List</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Monday,
October 19, 2009 3:36 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Rules proposal 11-6
question<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I
think one of the biggest problems we face right now is the void in
Advanced. The Advanced sequence this time around was made just a tad
more difficult and some of us in the sequence committee are
all for changing Advanced every two years along with Masters. In
my opinion, some are moving up to Masters too quick. Changing
Advanced more frequently along with changing the advancement requirements
might just be the ticket for keeping guys in Advanced a little longer.
Hopefully, we can build up this class to where it should be which
should increase the judging pool at local contests. I am also for
allowing guys to move back to Advanced when the new sequences come into
use.<BR> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" class=MsoNormal align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
<HR id=ecxstopSpelling align=center SIZE=2 width="100%">
</SPAN></DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:
jnhiller@earthlink.net<BR>To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Date:
Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:57:15 -0700<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules
proposal 11-6 question<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=ecxecxemailstyle22><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">You
know there was some resistance to splitting masters into two groups "A"
& "B" so they could judge each other when a contest was overloaded
with masters fliers. I don't see two FAI classes as being much different.
Adding an 'Expert" class also addresses the judging overload. There may
also be some concern that the ever increasing difficulty in FAI may
encourage some people to fly masters, adding to the judge
imbalance.</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=ecxecxemailstyle22><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I'm
a new guy in masters and will fly or stumble through whatever is decided
on. I just want to point out that there are other ways to deal with
contest judge imbalances. </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=ecxecxemailstyle22><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Jim</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>Atwood, Mark<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 19, 2009 9:07
AM<BR><B>To:</B> General pattern discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Rules proposal 11-6 question</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I
for one have gotten VERY poor feedback from our masters flyers on
this. It makes sense to me, and in a vacuum I would certainly vote
for it, but alas, I</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">’</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">m
not. Given the current sentiment on this in D3(AMA D3 that is, not
NSRCA) it would be a resounding no vote without removing the integrated
rolling maneuvers at a minimum.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Those
maneuvers alone keep many from moving up to FAI, in addition to having to
learn 2 sequences. I don</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">’</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">t
know what the response would be to a Masters </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">“</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">FAI
LITE</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">”</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">
sequence where you simply removed the integrated roll from the Figure M
and maybe replaced the Loop w/8pt with an avalanche or
such. But I know I</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">’</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">ll
get an ear full of </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">“</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Nays</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">”</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">
if there</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">’</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">s
a proposal for straight FAI in masters.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Mark
Atwood</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Paragon
Consulting, Inc.</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt"> </SPAN><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">|</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt"> President</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt">5885 Landerbrook Drive
Suite 130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt">Phone:
440.684.3101 x102 </SPAN><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">|</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt"> Fax:
440.684.3102</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1351f3; FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt"><A
href="mailto:mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com">mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com</A>
</SPAN><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">|</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1351f3; FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt"><A
href="http://www.paragon-inc.com/">www.paragon-inc.com</A></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV
style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt">
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Dave
Burton<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 19, 2009 11:57 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
'General pattern discussion'<BR><B>Cc:</B> Tom Miller<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules proposal 11-6 question</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">It
seems to me that adopting the FAI </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">“</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">P</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">”</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">
schedule for the Masters class with </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">“</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">changes</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">”</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">
is not the way to go. A better alternative IMO is to fly FAI P
schedule under FAI rules as a separate class. Those of us with some age
remember when this was done years ago as </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">“</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">D</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">”</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">
expert and </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">“</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">D</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">”</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">
Novice classes. As I remember AMA class </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">“</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">D</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">”</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">
was the FAI event back then. This would have the advantages of two
classes flying under the same rules and the benefits of more
flyers/judges familiar with the same rules and maneuvers. It would
also eliminate the work involved in coming up with a new Masters sequence
every three or so years as a new schedule would be automatically be
invoked FAI changed. I</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Unicode MS','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">’</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">d
like to see a proposal for this change submitted to the Contest
Board.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Dave
Burton </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV
style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt">
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Vicente "Vince" Bortone<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 19, 2009 11:29
AM<BR><B>To:</B> General pattern discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Rules proposal 11-6 question</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Hi
Lance,</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Just to
clarify. I am not the only one making this proposal. Don
Ramsey and Charlie Rock helped me to put it together. I am
going to try to respond to your questions below. Please read below
in <STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">bold.
</SPAN></STRONG>Thanks for bringing this discussion to the list.
<BR><BR>Vicente "Vince" Bortone<BR><BR>----- Original Message
-----<BR>From: "Lance Van Nostrand" <patterndude@tx.rr.com><BR>To:
"NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Sent:
Sunday, October 18, 2009 11:51:30 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada
Central<BR>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules proposal 11-6
question</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I
know official discussion hasn't started but this list is one of the good
vetting forums. Vince proposed Masters flying FAI P, which is clear
<STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">(this is for sure
the most important statement)</SPAN></STRONG>, but if the logic behind the
proposal as written causes confusion it may make a less convincing
case. <STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Good
point. We assumed that was easy for someone that is very familiar to
pattern to digest the intent of the proposal. Your conclusions are
correct. We are assuming that the current procedures we use
to design the Master schedule are not changed. We adopt
the current FAI P schedule with the appropriate changes to
suit the Master class. This is the reason why we didn't try to
discuss other details. </SPAN></STRONG>For example, it says
"there is an evident pile up f pilots in the Masters class" but never
clearly states how flying the same sequence would change that. He
may be implying that people will more freely move between classes to
balance the lines because they are flying a similar sequence but the
sequences may not be identical and the judging rules are not
identical. <STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Correct. You actually saw
what happened in Tulsa this year. There were 10 pilots in
Masters and you decided to divide the group in two and five flew
Masters and five flew FAI. This also happened already in other
local contest around KC. It happens at Fort Scott contest
also. Pilots will be more willing to do this we fly
the same schedule. </SPAN></STRONG>At another point it says
"This will make judging of both classes very accurate" but doesn't address
the obvious differences in judging criteria between AMA and FAI, which is
the current burden that Masters and FAI pilots currently bear when the fly
one class and judge the other.<STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> I am sure that we will agree
that it will be a lot easier to deal with these differences if we fly the
same schedules. The proposal intent is not to address the
differences in judging criteria between AMA and FAI. I believe
that it will become natural as we start to fly the same schedule
and the differences will go away with
time. </SPAN></STRONG>Finally, there is no exact wording
proposed on the form where it is expected, but later in the logic it
refers to the idea of replacing some FAI maneuvers where
appropriate. <STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">We are assuming that the current
procedure to design the schedules is still in place. The
committee will check the current FAI P schedule and proposed a final one
with the changes to make it suitable for Masters. For example, P11
the only portion I will change is the integrated half loop on the figure
M. I will suggest something like 2 of 4 or 1/2 roll on bottom
to replace the integrated 1/2 roll. I believe that all other
maneuvers are suitable for Masters. </SPAN></STRONG>Without
exact wording, its not clear how this is done, or if the maneuver
descriptions will be re-written in the AMA rules, or referenced to the FAI
descriptions like the sequence. <STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">The committee will decide
whatever is appropriate. If they feel that the FAI descriptions are
appropiate we could use it as is.</SPAN></STRONG> Oh, and how
does AMA deal with the fact that FAI changes schedules in odd
years?<STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> We
will need to follow FAI schedule. I think that this is
very possible and should not be a problem.
</SPAN></STRONG></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">My
intent is simply to point out aspects that detract from it's
thoroughness. I do not yet have a stance on the issue.<STRONG><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> We put this together just
taking at the 2008 Nats. I remember that I have to judge FAI and I
never had the chance to judge FAI before the Nats. I was trying to
study the FAI schedule at the same time that I was trying to fly my own
contest. This is clearly an additional pressure on the
contestant. If this proposal pass it will make our life easier
at the local contest and when we judging at the Nats or any other
contest. Also, clearly will make the judging level very high because
Masters and FAI pilots will be very familiar with the schedules we fly and
the details requires to judge each of the maneuvers. Finally,
the balance in local contest will be easier to fix since we will
more willing to fly FAI when required.
</SPAN></STRONG></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">--Lance</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"><BR>_______________________________________________
NSRCA-discussion mailing list NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" class=MsoNormal align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
<HR align=center SIZE=2 width="100%">
</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hotmail:
Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. <A
href="http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/">Sign up now.</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" class=MsoNormal align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
<HR align=center SIZE=2 width="100%">
</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>NSRCA-discussion
mailing
list<BR>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" class=MsoNormal align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
<HR align=center SIZE=2 width="100%">
</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Your E-mail and
More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. <A
href="http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/" target=_new>Sign up
now.</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" class=MsoNormal align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
<HR align=center SIZE=2 width="100%">
</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">_______________________________________________<BR>NSRCA-discussion
mailing
list<BR>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<P>
<HR>
<P></P>_______________________________________________<BR>NSRCA-discussion
mailing
list<BR>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>