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<DIV>OK, seeing as how the argument over interpretation of the FAI rule seems to
have stopped, yet the AMA rule argument continues, I would like to make a
motion that we switch the AMA rule to be identical to the FAI rule. Anyone
second that?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Matt</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=bob@toprudder.com href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com">Bob Richards</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 13, 2009 7:02
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] How I
became an expert Snap Judge (TIC)</DIV>
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<DIV>Well, what anyone's personal opinion on what a
maneuver should look like should be irrelevant. No one
should judge based on their personal opinion(s), they should
judge based on the rules criteria. I know, I know, easier
said than done. :-)</DIV>
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<DIV>If the rules say a pitch break must occur, we must downgrade if it
is not seen, whether we agree with it or not. When the snap occurs from
level flight in a centered maneuver, the break is easy to see. From
knife-edge or at the end of the box - not so easy to see, maybe
impossible in some instances (certain light conditions, etc). </DIV>
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<DIV>At the last contest my son and I attended (his first contest,
flying Sportsman) I noticed how difficult it was to judge the track of
the vertical upline - a very easy maneuver to describe and to fly, but
with the sun in our faces the only way to judge if the upline did not
lean in or out was to wait until the model pushed over on the top.</DIV>
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<DIV>That is part of what I am saying, the maneuver schedule should, if
possible, be chosen to minimize the difficulty of a person to judge the
maneuver. Don't make it any harder to judge than need be. Make it as
hard to fly as you want, just don't increase the judging difficulty in
the process.</DIV>
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<DIV>A big part of the problem in judging snaps is that it occurs
quickly, and there is not much time to think about what just
happened because the snap is never the last element in a maneuver. You
must continue counting and keeping track of point deductions. My
short-term memory gets worse as I get older. :-( In fact, my
memory is about as long as my.... my..... uhh... I
forget....</DIV>
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<DIV>Bob R.</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 10/13/09, verne@twmi.rr.com
<I><verne@twmi.rr.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=plainMail>Is there anybody involved in this discussion that
honestly can't recognize a snap when they see one? I'm just
asking.....<BR><BR>Verne<BR><BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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