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<DIV>Also well said by you, Bob</DIV>
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<A title=bob@toprudder.com href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com">Bob Richards</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 12, 2009 12:59
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] basic
judging question (warning 3 letterword)</DIV>
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<DIV>Well said.</DIV>
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<DIV>I will also add that the vast majority of the pattern pilots on the
US (far greater than 200???) will never fly FAI. Why be content
to follow when we may be able to lead by example.</DIV>
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<DIV>Bob R.</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 10/12/09, John Ferrell <I><<A
href="mailto:jferrell13@triad.rr.com">jferrell13@triad.rr.com</A>></I></B>
wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The FAI folks have no interest in our
problems or solutions, they have troubles of their own. Our
representation to the FAI process is tiny. They are slow to react and
even slower to admit there may be a problem. If you get the
opportunity to watch a FAI conducted event, be very critical of the
judging, the outcome as well as the elements. We have a better game in
the US than exists on an international level. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>It is not necessary to ignore their rules
but we need to take advantage of the opportunity to improve and adjust
where practical. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>More consistent judging and fewer
ambiguous rules are especially important goals. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>John Ferrell W8CCW<BR> <BR>"Extremism in defense of
liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit of justice is no
virtue."<BR>-Barry Goldwater<BR>"You don't get harmony when everybody
sings the same note."<BR>-Doug Floyd<BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A
title=tkeithblack@gmail.com
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ymailto="mailto:tkeithblack@gmail.com">Keith Black</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
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ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern
discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 11, 2009
11:25 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
basic judging question (warning 3 letterword)</DIV>
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<DIV>I know the USA centric thinkers won't like this, but I think we
should stay consistent with the FAI descriptions of the maneuver.
Like it or not RC Aerobatics is not that big of a pond. Why in the
AMA (all one or two hundred of us active Pattern fliers) do we have
to have our own definitions? Many countries ONLY fly FAI. It's cool
that the AMA has it's own classes, sequences, even event rules, but
why have our own maneuver descriptions? </DIV>
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<DIV>Seems to me that we just create confusion for judges and pilots
alike when we have different maneuver descriptions from the rest of
the world. If we feel a description is poorly defined why not appeal
to the FAI?</DIV>
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<DIV>Keith Black</DIV>
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