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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle24><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thank you
very much for saving and sharing Dave Lockhart's in depth assessment and explanation.
I returned to pattern in 2005, entering intermediate because I didn't want to
work at it. Advancing through advanced to masters has required a significantly
increase in elevator each time in order to fulfill snapping requirements. I ran
out of elevator bevel at about 22 degrees (insufficient) and suffer the
inconsistencies described. The other thing I encountered was moving the CG
forward helped. It didn't seam logical that increased pitch stability would
improve the snap. The only other conclusion I came to was, by reducing the nose
and tail weight allowed a quicker pitch response. If this is true the electric
guys should have an advantage if the wing is located such that the batteries
can be near the CG. I really like pattern. As for judging it is difficult and
like flying improves with practice, too bad I fly alone, not much opportunity
to observe / judge.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle24><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jim Hiller<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Vicente "Vince" Bortone<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 12, 2009
6:55 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Snap</span></font></p>
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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I kept a copy of the
following e-mail. Probably is some years old (~2005). I believe
will help in this discussion. I hope that Dave Lockhart does not mind
since this was already in this opinion group. I think this could clarify
some of the issues we have been discussing. It is clear to me
that snap roll is very difficult to do properly and that is the reason of the high
K-factor. Here is Dave's e-mail:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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