<div> I am not wrong. I've done it. With a tail heavy airplane with too much elevator throw. Before I knew how to fly, </div>
<div>my father would hold the radio down so that I could pull the elevator stick back to do a loop. I pulled back all at</div>
<div>once instead of gradually. The Sportmaster did a TRUE snap roll in straight and level flight. Scared the bejeezum</div>
<div>out of both of us! No aileron; no rudder.</div>
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<div> Later!</div>
<div> RJO</div>