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<DIV>I will also add that the vast majority of the pattern pilots on the US (far greater than 200???) will never fly FAI. Why be content to follow when we may be able to lead by example.</DIV>
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<DIV>Bob R.</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 10/12/09, John Ferrell <I><jferrell13@triad.rr.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The FAI folks have no interest in our problems or solutions, they have troubles of their own. Our representation to the FAI process is tiny. They are slow to react and even slower to admit there may be a problem. If you get the opportunity to watch a FAI conducted event, be very critical of the judging, the outcome as well as the elements. We have a better game in the US than exists on an international level. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It is not necessary to ignore their rules but we need to take advantage of the opportunity to improve and adjust where practical. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>More consistent judging and fewer ambiguous rules are especially important goals. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>John Ferrell W8CCW<BR> <BR>"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue."<BR>-Barry Goldwater<BR>"You don't get harmony when everybody sings the same note."<BR>-Doug Floyd<BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A title=tkeithblack@gmail.com href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tkeithblack@gmail.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:tkeithblack@gmail.com">Keith Black</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:25 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] basic judging question (warning 3 letterword)</DIV>
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<DIV>I know the USA centric thinkers won't like this, but I think we should stay consistent with the FAI descriptions of the maneuver. Like it or not RC Aerobatics is not that big of a pond. Why in the AMA (all one or two hundred of us active Pattern fliers) do we have to have our own definitions? Many countries ONLY fly FAI. It's cool that the AMA has it's own classes, sequences, even event rules, but why have our own maneuver descriptions? </DIV>
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<DIV>Seems to me that we just create confusion for judges and pilots alike when we have different maneuver descriptions from the rest of the world. If we feel a description is poorly defined why not appeal to the FAI?</DIV>
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<DIV>Keith Black</DIV>
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