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I think that is the problem. Who can and then has the ambition and
time to write it? I am not saying we should get permission to use and
modify the "Score" program (although that might be one option), but I
can partially recreate what they have with it as it is. I sent the
developer a few questions including if the regional standings are done
by hand or also automatic. Perhaps if we just steal the idea and the
developer of the PACS program can have it generate similar html output
then we could implement it on our website. <br>
Stuart<br>
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Pete Cosky wrote:
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Joomla and MySQL could certainly do
what is necessary, what we need is an actual developer who can write
the code for the modules. If all our scoring software can output the
same formatted CSV then it would be much easier for a code writer.</font></div>
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Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More Pattern vs IMAC</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">Didn’t we go
through this last year?</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">We also now
have a new web site that use a </span></font><font color="navy"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;">CMS</span></font><font
color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy; font-family: Arial;"> (Jooma)
and a database (MySQL). Why not use them?</span></font></p>
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Stuart Chale<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, </span></font><font
color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: Tahoma;">September
25, 2009</span></font><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: Tahoma;"> </span></font><font
color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
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PM</span></font><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> </span></font><font
color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: Tahoma;">General
pattern discussion</span></font><font color="black" face="Tahoma"
size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: windowtext; font-family: Tahoma;"><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] More Pattern vs IMAC</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I have
been playing with their software "score" It is available from the IMAC
site. The program produces the reports in the same format that you see
on the site as well as the standings sheet that you would post at a
contest (same format). I think this works so well because everyone
uses the same software. The full contest results including individual
scores etc were on the site 2 days after the contest. The software is
easy to use and with the individual maneuver scores posted allows you
to recreate the contest or a round to see "what if" I didn't 0 the
spin or flop the stall turn. How would the results have changed. (Yes
I admit it I did that. I got a 0 on a few spins). I have not played
with PACSS in along time so I do not know if it produces the same
output.<br>
The results are output onto several html pages (already formatted)
that can be just uploaded to our site with an HTML page listing the
contests linking to the results as they have done. <br>
Here is a test that I did with 2 flyers entered into the Score
program. IMAC has 2 sequences per flight but the software can output 1
or 2. <br>
The contest results page would have a link to this page (just a test)
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://angelsonly.com/scoretest/report_results.html">http://angelsonly.com/scoretest/report_results.html</a><br>
>From there you can click on individual pilots etc. I am not sure
if the regional point leaders are done manually or automatically.<br>
<br>
Stuart<br>
<br>
Derek Koopowitz wrote: </span></font></p>
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color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri;">Rather
than forcing each CD to use the same scoring software all we need to do
is come up with a standard reporting format that we can use to upload
data and then the various scoring programs can be modified to create
this data file and for the CD to send it to a central location.<U5:P></U5:P></span></font></p>
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color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">From:</span></font></b><font
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Gene
Maurice<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday,
September 25, 2009 10:21 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'General pattern
discussion'<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] More Pattern vs IMAC<U5:P></U5:P></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><U5:P><font
color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></font></U5:P></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font
color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri;">PACSS
already creates a couple of different export files, individual
contestant results an contest results in csv format. It also has the
capability of uploading to a web site. Currently it uploads the entire
database to an FTP directory on the PACSS web site. <U5:P></U5:P></span></font></p>
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color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri;"><U5:P></U5:P></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font
color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri;">BTW,
AMA number is the key in the system <U5:P></U5:P></span></font></p>
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color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">From:</span></font></b><font
face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> <a
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Atwood,
Mark<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday,
September 25, 2009 11:36 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> General pattern
discussion<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] More Pattern vs IMAC<U5:P></U5:P></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><U5:P><font
color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;"></span></font></U5:P></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font
color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri;">This
is actually a pretty amazing site and we would do extremely well to try
and pursue something like this. I have to believe that Jim could
create the export file from PACSS very easily…the trick will be how
that gets uploaded. We would need to use AMA numbers as a unique ID
for each Pilot so we don’t end up with 4 misspellings of the same
person, but that would be simple<U5:P></U5:P></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font
color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri;"><U5:P></U5:P></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font
color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri;">The
best part is all the data that would be available to the pilot.
National and regional averages on a maneuver by maneuver basis. It
would be nice for analyzing your own scores.<U5:P></U5:P></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font
color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri;"><U5:P></U5:P></span></font></p>
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color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri;">The
contest registration could be huge too, though I can see the downside
in that a contest that has poor early registration, may end up with
even less attendance since that might dissuade even more from coming,
but overall it would be a tremendous asset.<U5:P></U5:P></span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Keith
Black<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday,
September 25, 2009 11:37 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> General pattern
discussion<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] More Pattern vs IMAC<U5:P></U5:P></span></font></p>
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color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">That is awesome! I wonder if we could borrow
some of the technology from them to do that for pattern?</span></font><U5:P></U5:P></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On Thu,
Sep 24, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Stuart Chale <<a
href="mailto:schale@optonline.net" moz-do-not-send="true">schale@optonline.net</a>>
wrote:</span></font><U5:P></U5:P></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I love
the way the question I posed about adding an unkown to pattern has
morphed into multiple topics, currently world championship judging :)<br>
<br>
One other nice idea that IMAC has implemented is in their contest
management software. As a member of the web team I would love to see
us be able to do something similar (I have no idea what is involved).
I am sure this feature brings a lot more use to their website than we
get. Like we have, all of their contests are listed from their
website. However you can sign up for any contest in a uniform manner.
Some of our districts did or does have this feature but it is not
uniformly implemented. You can also see who is registered for a
contest, how many people are going, how many in each class, etc. Once
the contest is complete the scoring program that they use generates a
report that gets uploaded to the web as results for that contest. This
is a very interesting feature. Final results with round scores
including dropped rounds etc are posted. If you click on your name or
any pilot you will see all of their individual scores for the contest.
No need to rummage through scoring sheets to find yours. You can see
how you scored in each maneuver through the contest or compared to
other fliers.<br>
An example of their contest results page.<br>
<a
href="http://www.mini-iac.com/Regions/NorthCentral/NCContestResults/tabid/101/Default.aspx"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.mini-iac.com/Regions/NorthCentral/NCContestResults/tabid/101/Default.aspx</a><br>
<br>
Stuart<br>
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