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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Joomla and MySQL could certainly do what is
necessary, what we need is an actual developer who can write the code for the
modules. If all our scoring software can output the same formatted CSV then it
would be much easier for a code writer.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=lightfoot@sc.rr.com href="mailto:lightfoot@sc.rr.com">Jay
Marshall</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'General pattern
discussion'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 25, 2009 3:16
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More
Pattern vs IMAC</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Didn’t we go through
this last year?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We also now have a
new web site that use a </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">CMS</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> (Jooma) and a
database (MySQL). Why not use them?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P><B><I><FONT face="Brush Script MT" color=black size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: 'Brush Script MT'">Jay
Marshall</SPAN></FONT></I></B> </P></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Stuart Chale<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">September 25,
2009</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">2:48
PM</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma
color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">General
pattern discussion</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More
Pattern vs IMAC</SPAN></FONT></P>
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color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I have been playing with
their software "score" It is available from the IMAC site. The
program produces the reports in the same format that you see on the site as
well as the standings sheet that you would post at a contest (same
format). I think this works so well because everyone uses the same
software. The full contest results including individual scores etc were
on the site 2 days after the contest. The software is easy to use and
with the individual maneuver scores posted allows you to recreate the contest
or a round to see "what if" I didn't 0 the spin or flop the stall
turn. How would the results have changed. (Yes I admit it I did
that. I got a 0 on a few spins). I have not played with
PACSS in along time so I do not know if it produces the same
output.<BR>The results are output onto several html pages (already
formatted) that can be just uploaded to our site with an HTML page
listing the contests linking to the results as they have done. <BR>Here
is a test that I did with 2 flyers entered into the Score program. IMAC
has 2 sequences per flight but the software can output 1 or 2. <BR>The
contest results page would have a link to this page (just a test) <A
href="http://angelsonly.com/scoretest/report_results.html">http://angelsonly.com/scoretest/report_results.html</A><BR>>From
there you can click on individual pilots etc. I am not sure if the
regional point leaders are done manually or
automatically.<BR><BR>Stuart<BR><BR>Derek Koopowitz wrote: </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Rather than
forcing each CD to use the same scoring software all we need to do is come up
with a standard reporting format that we can use to upload data and then the
various scoring programs can be modified to create this data file and for the
CD to send it to a central location.<U5:P></U5:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><U5:P></U5:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Gene
Maurice<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday,
September 25, 2009 10:21 AM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 'General pattern
discussion'<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] More Pattern vs
IMAC<U5:P></U5:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><U5:P><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT></U5:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">PACSS already
creates a couple of different export files, individual contestant results an
contest results in csv format. It also has the capability of uploading to a
web site. Currently it uploads the entire database to an FTP directory on the
PACSS web site. <U5:P></U5:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><U5:P></U5:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">BTW, AMA number
is the key in the system <U5:P></U5:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><U5:P></U5:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><U5:P></U5:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><U5:P></U5:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Atwood,
Mark<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, September
25, 2009 11:36 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> General
pattern discussion<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More Pattern vs
IMAC<U5:P></U5:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><U5:P><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT></U5:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">This is actually
a pretty amazing site and we would do extremely well to try and pursue
something like this. I have to believe that Jim could create the
export file from PACSS very easily…the trick will be how that gets
uploaded. We would need to use AMA numbers as a unique ID for each Pilot
so we don’t end up with 4 misspellings of the same person, but that would be
simple<U5:P></U5:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><U5:P></U5:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">The
best part is all the data that would be available to the pilot. National
and regional averages on a maneuver by maneuver basis. It would be nice
for analyzing your own scores.<U5:P></U5:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><U5:P></U5:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">The
contest registration could be huge too, though I can see the downside in that
a contest that has poor early registration, may end up with even less
attendance since that might dissuade even more from coming, but overall it
would be a tremendous asset.<U5:P></U5:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><U5:P></U5:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><U5:P></U5:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><U5:P></U5:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Keith
Black<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, September
25, 2009 11:37 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> General
pattern discussion<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] More Pattern vs
IMAC<U5:P></U5:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><U5:P><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT></U5:P></P>
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style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">That
is awesome! I wonder if we could borrow some of the technology from them
to do that for pattern?</SPAN></FONT><U5:P></U5:P></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 8:57
AM, Stuart Chale <<A href="mailto:schale@optonline.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">schale@optonline.net</A>>
wrote:</SPAN></FONT><U5:P></U5:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I love the way the question I
posed about adding an unkown to pattern has morphed into multiple topics,
currently world championship judging :)<BR><BR>One other nice idea that IMAC
has implemented is in their contest management software. As a member of
the web team I would love to see us be able to do something similar (I have no
idea what is involved). I am sure this feature brings a lot more use to
their website than we get. Like we have, all of their contests are
listed from their website. However you can sign up for any contest in a
uniform manner. Some of our districts did or does have this feature but
it is not uniformly implemented. You can also see who is registered for
a contest, how many people are going, how many in each class, etc. Once
the contest is complete the scoring program that they use generates a report
that gets uploaded to the web as results for that contest. This is a
very interesting feature. Final results with round scores including
dropped rounds etc are posted. If you click on your name or any pilot
you will see all of their individual scores for the contest. No need to
rummage through scoring sheets to find yours. You can see how you scored
in each maneuver through the contest or compared to other fliers.<BR>An
example of their contest results page.<BR><A
href="http://www.mini-iac.com/Regions/NorthCentral/NCContestResults/tabid/101/Default.aspx"
target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.mini-iac.com/Regions/NorthCentral/NCContestResults/tabid/101/Default.aspx</A><BR><BR>Stuart<BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>NSRCA-discussion
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