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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I love the questions – it gives us all a chance to fully
understand what is going on.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>At the 2008 Nats I had a discussion with the AMA about the WC’s
and when would be the best time to do it. Several suggestions were made
as to timing but one of them (the current one of having the WC’s at the
end of the Nats followed by the pattern Nats) made the best since logistically
as well as with timing on getting the facility. Several different options
of where to put the WC’s were considered and we finally settled on the “current”
set of dates as a place holder.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>These dates were run by a number of people and everyone was in
agreement, including the CIAM, as to whether it would be feasible to host the
event during this time period. The more people we talked to, and by fully
explaining the reasoning to them, the more they liked it. We haven’t
been operating in a vacuum with this – full cooperation with the AMA and
the CIAM has been done on this. One can’t do this without either
party and I definitely would be foolish to come up with dates without ensuring
that the AMA and the CIAM have bought into them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Officially, the pattern Nats won’t be scheduled until the
planning meeting next year – just like all events are scheduled each year
at this planning meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Anthony
Frackowiak<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 02, 2009 8:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Speaking of the 2011 Worlds at Muncie .
. . . .<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Derek,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Maybe I'm coming in late to this discussion, and for that I
apologize. But I would like to ask a few more questions just for
clarification. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>You have stated before that the Pattern Nats for 2011 won't
be scheduled until October of 2010. Has there been any serious discussion with
the AMA about the 2011 Pattern Nats and if it will even be possible to do what
you are stating? Can they can even be held after the WC? It would seem that
this will take a monumental shift in the Center schedule.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Are the dates that you have put out for the WC's the only
alternative right now? Do we even have the option of moving them later?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for your reply!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Tony<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Sep 2, 2009, at 4:44 PM, Derek Koopowitz wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Fluid meaning that the dates could move a few days forward
or backward... yes, absolutely.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Cast in concrete - when the 1st
bulletin gets mailed out.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Anthony Frackowiak <<a
href="mailto:frackowiak@sbcglobal.net">frackowiak@sbcglobal.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>No it has not been worked out. You are saying your dates for
the WC are fluid, and the dates for the 2011 Nats are not set even tentatively.
So there is a lot in the air. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Tony<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Sep 2, 2009, at 4:15 PM, Derek Koopowitz wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Actually it had been all worked out until
"everyone" started chiming in as to their preference for when the wc
should be held and the Nats should be held... can't please all the people.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>LOL<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Anthony Frackowiak <<a
href="mailto:frackowiak@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">frackowiak@sbcglobal.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I absolutely agree. IRCHA will not move their dates unless
forced to by the AMA. And I doubt the AMA will do so. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I find it hard to believe that this has not been worked out
yet. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Tony<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Sep 2, 2009, at 4:00 PM, Bill's Email wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Anthony Frackowiak wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Archie is absolutely correct. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Tony<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Sep 2, 2009, at 3:51 PM, Archie Stafford wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>IRCHA is a totally different animal though. Kind of like
having Joe Nall after the pattern worlds. I’d say most people
really didn’t care about the F3C worlds. IRCHA does a lot more 3D
stuff. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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And my point was that attracting 900 paid participants to an event is going to
give them some clout when it comes to a schedule relative to the pattern NATS.
The WC are a different thing, but IRCHA is not likely to budge for the pattern
NATS if it came to that.<br>
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