<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Seems like the cart before the horse. I would have thought that any bid presented to the CIAM for the WC would have already identified key management personnel. <div><br></div><div>Tony</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 3, 2009, at 8:21 AM, Derek Koopowitz wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>If anyone has been reading my articles in the K-Factor you will see that we have been looking for an event manager for the WC's for almost 6 months now... no one has stepped forward.</div> <div> </div> <div>I've seen some comments on this list from several people that obviously know what it takes to run a world championship so my challenge to you all is this - step up and take the event manager job and run the event the proper way. If you don't want to be the event manager for the event (not CD it but plan it) then please offer your services to help plan the event with the selected event manager so that it can be the best world championship. The Nats is a standalone event and will remain as such. It has its own event director and core group of volunteers that help each and every year.<br> <br></div> <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 6:54 AM, michael s harrison <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:drmikedds@sbcglobal.net">drmikedds@sbcglobal.net</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> <div lang="EN-US" style="WORD-WRAP: break-word" vlink="purple" link="blue"> <div><p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">My thoughts and opinion. First of all, the Nats is being treated as if it is just a local, fly for fun, whatever event. The Nats is a national event where the best in the US and those from any other country competes for the National title. This is the biggest competition in the United States. It is also the best competitive pattern event the US, possibly in the world. There are a core group of individuals that make all that possible. The event has evolved, grown and matured over the course of many years. It works very well. I would be very cautious about doing any major upheaval to that event.</span></p><div><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Very importantly also, the world championships is the the FAI worlds premiere event in pattern. It deserves its sole identity and space. I strongly recommend it has its own time and commitment. It is 2 years away. Now is the time to get the core group together to put an event together we can all be proud of. People that travel from all over the world to come here to compete deserve our very best uncompromised effort.</span></p><div><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">It is very important we decide our philosophy in this issue. Are we doing this to please the casual flyer or the dedicated competitor? Is it a curiosity or a serious commitment to provide the very best arena to find the best flyer in the nation and the world?</span></p><div><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">I say make the Nationals the best in the nation, make the World Championship the best in the world.</span></p><div><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">I believe this twofer concept will make both events suffer. I am opposed to it. </span></p><div><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Separate the events by a substantial time frame. Find someone dedicated to making the world championship a truly world class event. Build a team for it. Make it happen.</span></p><div><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Regards,</span></p><p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Mike </span></p><div><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div> <div> <div style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none"><p><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Anthony Frackowiak<br> <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 02, 2009 5:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion <div class="im"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Speaking of the 2011 Worlds at Muncie . . . . .</div></span> </p><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div></div><div> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p>Not the same thing. The IRCHA meet is not a competition, practice fields are not at a premium. I still say the WC's should be held in September.</p> <div><div> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div> <div><p>Tony</p></div> <div><div> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div> <div> <div><p>On Sep 2, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Derek Koopowitz wrote:</p></div><p><br><br></p> <div><p>So the IRCHA guys had their fly-in directly after the f3c world champs... I think it worked for them.</p></div> <div><div> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div> <div><p>Perhaps IRCHA can be persuaded to move their event out 1 week to accommodate us?</p></div> <div><p>On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Bill's Email <<a href="mailto:wemodels@cox.net" target="_blank">wemodels@cox.net</a>> wrote:</p> <div> <div><p>Archie Stafford wrote: </p> <div><p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">I’m guessing the IRCHA guys will fight those dates as well as that is time they normally have their fly in, and due to the size it has grown to, I doubt they will be willing to give it up.</span></p> <div><div><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Arch</span></p> <div><div><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div></div><div style="margin-bottom: 12pt; "> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">I heard they only got like 900 or so paid pilots this past year. 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