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It's strange... I've been following this thread and am a little confused on the reasoning for the idea<BR>
that the Nats attendance would be "down". Everyone I've talked to about the possibility that the <BR>
worlds and Nats would be held back to back, loved the idea and wants to attend. These are people<BR>
that don't usually attend the Nats. They want to catch the semis and finals, then fly in the Nats, <BR>
with hopes that some of the worlds pilots would stay and fly our Nats!<BR>
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Rex<BR> <BR>> From: frackowiak@sbcglobal.net<BR>> To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 15:53:37 -0700<BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Speaking of the 2011 Worlds at Muncie . . .. .<BR>> <BR>> One of the main reasons I feel that the WC's should be in September. <BR>> Holding the Nats after the WC's will cause a very large reduction in <BR>> attendance.<BR>> <BR>> Tony<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> On Sep 2, 2009, at 2:50 PM, John Fuqua wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > Hate to point out that schools start up in August these days, some <BR>> > earlier<BR>> > some later. In Florida its mid August. If you push the Nats to <BR>> > that time<BR>> > frame or later you WILL impact participation.<BR>> ><BR>> > -----Original Message-----<BR>> > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Derek<BR>> > Koopowitz<BR>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 4:47 PM<BR>> > To: General pattern discussion<BR>> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Speaking of the 2011 Worlds at <BR>> > Muncie . . ..<BR>> > .<BR>> ><BR>> > Nothing firm has been decided at this point - all I know is that it <BR>> > will be<BR>> > held after the world champs. The wc dates are not firm either in <BR>> > that my<BR>> > preference would be to start the prelims on Sunday July 31st and end <BR>> > on Sat.<BR>> > August 6th with the pattern Nats starting on Monday August 8th and <BR>> > finishing<BR>> > on Friday August 12th - these are the dates that I will be going to <BR>> > the AMA<BR>> > with in hopes that we can use them.<BR>> ><BR>> > We tentatively published dates for the worlds to the CIAM as <BR>> > starting on<BR>> > July 27th (prelims) and finishing on August 2nd - this was based on <BR>> > dates<BR>> > that I was given by the AMA - it doesn't make sense to start/end in <BR>> > the<BR>> > middle of a week.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Anthony Frackowiak<BR>> > <frackowiak@sbcglobal.net> wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > But I would hope that there has been some discussion about when to<BR>> > hold the 2011 Nats? Or has it not been considered? If it has been <BR>> > discussed,<BR>> > what are the planned dates for the Nats?<BR>> ><BR>> > Tony<BR>> ><BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > On Sep 2, 2009, at 1:43 PM, Derek Koopowitz wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > We won't know the schedule for the Nats until Oct. next year<BR>> > - that is when the 2011 planning meeting will be held.<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Anthony Frackowiak<BR>> > <frackowiak@sbcglobal.net> wrote:<BR>> > <BR>> ><BR>> > What is the proposed schedule for the 2011 Nats?<BR>> ><BR>> > Tony<BR>> ><BR>> > On Sep 2, 2009, at 8:20 AM, Derek Koopowitz wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > This would mean double travel expense for<BR>> > many people that would potentially work at the event and compete at <BR>> > the<BR>> > Nats. Coming early to watch the semis and finals means arriving 3 <BR>> > days<BR>> > before the Nats... most Nats competitors arrive 1 to 2 days before <BR>> > the Nats<BR>> > anyway and practice at local sites so they'd be around to watch the <BR>> > most<BR>> > important flying part of the WC's anyway.<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Anthony<BR>> > Frackowiak <frackowiak@sbcglobal.net> wrote:<BR>> > <BR>> ><BR>> > I sincerely hope that this idea is<BR>> > changed. Moving the Nats after the World Championships will greatly <BR>> > reduce<BR>> > the attendance at the Nats. I think it would be better to schedule the<BR>> > Worlds in September.<BR>> ><BR>> > Tony<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > On Sep 1, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Derek<BR>> > Koopowitz wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > <BR>> > That is correct. come and<BR>> > see the semis and finals of the Worlds and then stay and compete in <BR>> > the<BR>> > pattern Nats. the idea is that we can hopefully entice some of the <BR>> > world's<BR>> > competitors to fly in our Nationals as well.<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > From:<BR>> > nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Bob <BR>> > Kane<BR>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 01,<BR>> > 2009 6:27 PM<BR>> > To: General pattern<BR>> > discussion<BR>> > Subject: Re:<BR>> > [NSRCA-discussion] Speaking of the 2011 Worlds at Muncie . . . . ..<BR>> > <BR>> > I also heard the pattern<BR>> > NATS will be held after the Worlds?<BR>> > <BR>> > Bob Kane<BR>> > getterflash@yahoo.com<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > ________________________________<BR>> ><BR>> > From: Derek Koopowitz<BR>> > <derekkoopowitz@gmail.com><BR>> > To: General pattern<BR>> > discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>> > Sent: Monday, August 31,<BR>> > 2009 4:07:33 PM<BR>> > Subject: Re:<BR>> > [NSRCA-discussion] Speaking of the 2011 Worlds at Muncie . . . . ..<BR>> > Tentative schedule is as<BR>> > follows:<BR>> > <BR>> ><BR>> > * Monday July 25th<BR>> > 2011 Processing and Official Practice Day<BR>> > * Tuesday July 26th<BR>> > 2011 Opening Ceremony and Official Practice Day<BR>> > * Wednesday July 27th<BR>> > 2011 Preliminaries Day 1<BR>> > * Thursday July 28th<BR>> > 2011 Preliminaries Day 2<BR>> > * Friday July 29th<BR>> > 2011 Preliminaries Day 3<BR>> > * Saturday July 30th<BR>> > 2011 Preliminaries Day 4<BR>> > * Sunday July 31st<BR>> > 2011 Reserved for preliminaries if necessary<BR>> > * Monday August 1st<BR>> > 2011 Semi-Finals<BR>> > * Tuesday August 2nd<BR>> > 2011 Finals and Closing Ceremony and Banquet<BR>> > * Wednesday August 3rd<BR>> > 2011 Departure of Contestants<BR>> ><BR>> > <BR>> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at<BR>> > 12:21 PM, Bob Kane <getterflash@yahoo.com> wrote:<BR>> > . . . . . . do we know<BR>> > the dates yet?<BR>> > <BR>> > Bob Kane<BR>> > getterflash@yahoo.com<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > <BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > NSRCA-discussion mailing<BR>> > list<BR>> > <BR>> > NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> > <BR>> > http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > NSRCA-discussion mailing<BR>> > list<BR>> > <BR>> > NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> > <BR>> > http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > <BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> > NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> > <BR>> > http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR>> > <BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > <BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> > NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> > <BR>> > http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> > NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> > <BR>> > http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR>> > <BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> > NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> > http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> > NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> > http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR>> > <BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> > NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> > http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>> NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<BR></body>
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