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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Please explain this set up for a 10X.
Thanks, Dwayne</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Troy Newman<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, August 29, 2009
4:42 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] JR
question 9303 kill switch</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I
just set up this mix….and found out that the button is not available as a
switch to select to activate the mix. The choices for the mix
activation are the MIX, AIL, ELE, RUD switches. Those are the d/r switches. I
didn’t realize that until I started to set it up. There is an easy way to
skin the cat, and Allan Worrest did it for us. I checked his method out and it
works like a charm. I have my 12X and 10X time in the air and programming than
the 9303. The logic is all pretty much similar just takes a little fooling of
the TX to get the task done on the 9303 compared to the 12X. Thanks Allan. I
pride myself on knowing how to program these radios and helping guys out with
it. This time I was combining programming between the different radios in my
head before I actually went and programmed it.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>So
since you can mix any channel to any channel we need to do what is described
below. Use a spare channel and have it controlled by the button. In
the case below like Allan describes he used AUX 4. This channel is normally
controlled by the rudd D/R switch. In the Device Sel menu you just re-assign
the channel to the button. Now the button is AUX4.</span></font></p>
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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>You
could choose any of the spare channels and assign them to the button.</span></font></p>
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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Then
create your mix. I will amend what Allan says below. I prefer to not over drive
the throttle servo and make it bind. So you should not use 100% for the mix
value. I would suggest say starting with 30-40% and see how far the servo
travels. If it kills you are done. If its binding and over driving the servo
then reduce the mix value until binding stops.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>The
“THRO STK” part of what is described below is to only have the kill
function work below a certain throttle stick position. Meaning it adds another
switch on the throttle stick to arm or dis-arm the kill switch. If you set the
“thro-STK” value to say 25% then below ¼ throttle the button will
be enabled. If its set to 100% then below full throttle the button will be
enabled. I would suggest like Allan that you choose a number down low below say
25 so that the button only activates at low throttle settings.</span></font></p>
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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>The
idea behind this mix is to take the current throttle position and add travel to
it. If you choose a 40% mix you are taking the current throttle position say
1/4throttle 25% stick. This would be about L-75% on the output to the
servo. So you are driving the servo to L-75% PLUS another 40% so the end
result is the servo drives to L-115% or to its kill position.</span></font></p>
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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>It
would act the exact same as setting your travel adjust at 115%. Except when you
let go of the button the Travel Adjust is back to the normal values. If you
were at full idle stick and your travel adjust was 100% on the Low side L-100
it would drive the servo to 140%.</span></font></p>
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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>If
you are flying electrics I would suggest the toggle option. This way the
controller is getting full kill signal after you let go of the button. To raise
the throttle output position you then hit the button again and the throttle
comes back up. In this case I would set the mix as Butn to throttle and set the
values to 125% as the speed controller doesn’t have a mechanical linkage
to over drive. This would be a good safety to not accidently bump the stick and
turn on the motor. </span></font></p>
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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I
always use the mix switch for my Kill….this way I can flip it and the
kill stays on all the time until I flip it back. Also I can physically look at
the radio and tell if my kill is “ON” or off.</span></font></p>
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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I
know the in the 12X the buttons, aux trim tabs can be used as switches for the
mixing. The 9303 doesn’t offer this capability. </span></font></p>
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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Thanks
again Allan, I appreciate the help brother. I guess my brain was a little
clouded with work, and the new baby. Alexander is smiling and giggling now 9
weeks today. It’s pretty cool. Too bad I’m not on his radar yet.
Mama has the food, I’m just some bozo that stumbles around trying to
change him. He knows I’m not an expert at it….</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Hope
this helps guys and explains what is going on.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Troy
Newman</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>AWorrest@aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, August 25, 2009
9:29 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] JR
question</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>For the 9303, to make the trainer
button a momentary kill switch, first go to the DeviceSEL menu and set AUX4 to
be activated by BUTN. Leave AUX4 output active.<br>
<br>
In a linear program mix menu, mix AUX4 into THRO. In Pos1 lower position, set
the value to +100%. Set the THRO STK to some low value like 12 so the kill will
only take place when the throttle stick is in the idle position.<br>
<br>
The only problems that some people may have is with the timer. If you use the
trainer button to start the timer, you will momentarily cause the engine to go
low. Most engines will not stop with a quick blip on the button that is needed
to start the timer. But if this is a problem, use the timer switch on the front
panel. The other thing is that killing the engine will stop the timer. I find
this to be a benefit.<br>
<br>
Allan</span></font></p>
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