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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ahhh Jim…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You make my point in your post…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Your assumption is that folks know where
to look and get the info…Not so…Your response also assumes that you
know how to find the DVP to e-mail or call…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Perhaps I knew these things but was too
lazy to pick up a phone or send an e-mail????<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I did call the District VP once I figured
out that NSRCA was Pattern…I may be a bit dense because this only took
about three years…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’ve been flying RC since 1985 on
and off. I watched a young Chip Hyde fly in an 80’s pattern contest…I
wanted to get into pattern since that day…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I retired from the USN and found my self
in <st1:place w:st="on">Southern Indiana</st1:place>…Everyone I talked to
at three major clubs gave me blank looks when I asked about Pattern…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>My opinion is that it hasn’t
changed. Although, everyone that sees me at the flying field knows I fly
pattern albeit not well…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If we as the NSRCA believe we are visible
and easy to find, how is it that on RCU newbies keep asking how to get started…What
is Pattern…Where are the contests….??? I mean…All this can be
found on the NSRCA website right????<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You say the NSRCA VP was at your first
contest…If someone doesn’t know where the contests are, how do they
get there to be offered a membership?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We must keep an open mind and never
assume, we are easy to find…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Larry Diamond<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>J N Hiller<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August 27, 2009
10:29 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Spreading the word</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle22><font size=2 color="#993366"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Yes, we are nearly invisible, however
a phone call or e-mail to the district VP would likely have gotten you
connected as well as a heads-up on district contests. AMA exists to serve it's
members. The NSRCA was represented at the first contest I went to somewhere
around 1980 and I was offered membership.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle22><font size=2 color="#993366"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Sorry I'm not more sympatric.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle22><font size=2 color="#993366"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Jim H <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Lisa n Larry<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August 27, 2009
6:04 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Spreading the word</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Michael H…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>That is a harsh statement
and I strongly disagree with the message…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I searched for 3 years
knowing that Pattern existed…Found Pattern links and still took about 3
more years of practicing by myself before I finally stumbled across a link to a
NSRCA VP (Tom Weedon) at the time…He got me in touch with Steve Maxwell
and Jeff Hughes in Central Indiana…Couple of great ambassadors for
Pattern…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I knew pattern
existed…I knew nothing of NSRCA…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Do not be so short
sighted to think one can go onto the AMA site and find it…If you know
it’s there, it’s easy…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I consider myself to be
above average intelligence, except when I do something stupid…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It hurt both IMAC and
Pattern when the AMA Magazine started alternating articles…I used to look
forward to Eric articles...Now I’m just turned off by the AMA’s
approach to both and don’t really care or look for it…Pretty sad…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>To my knowledge,
I’m the only one active in Pattern (very part time) in <st1:place w:st="on">Southern
Indiana</st1:place> area. The next closest is about 2 hours away that
I’m aware of…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Larry Diamond<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>michael s <st1:place w:st="on">harrison</st1:place><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August 27, 2009
11:00 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> jpavlick@idseng.com; '<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Spreading the word</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I
believe the mother needs to get involved in a club. Needs to accept a
little of the accountability.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>John Pavlick<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August 27, 2009
10:19 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [NSRCA-discussion]
Spreading the word</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Larry's message brings back a point I've
been trying to make for quite a while. Regarding the letter that he received
from the boy's mother:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>"We are having a very difficult time
finding anyone with any knowledge about pattern flying. We are very limited
because we have never become involved in any type of <span class=yshortcuts>flying
club</span>."</span></font><font color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>It sounds like this kid would be a
perfect candidate for a new Pattern pilot! Somehow he found out about
"F3P" but NOT Pattern in general. How is that possible? When we
start the discussions about "Growing Pattern" and everyone wanders
off to find the solutions such as "make the sequences easier",
"eliminate the weight requirement", etc. please try to remember
this message. :)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>John Pavlick</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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--- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Thu, 8/27/09, Bob Richards <i><span
style='font-style:italic'><<st1:PersonName w:st="on">bob@toprudder.com</st1:PersonName>></span></i></span></b>
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From: Bob Richards <<st1:PersonName w:st="on">bob@toprudder.com</st1:PersonName>><br>
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Fw: Question? F3P competitions.<br>
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 10:36 AM</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I had this email forwarded to me, I
thought I would post it here in case anyone would like to help this young
guy out. He is located in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Greenville</st1:City>,
<st1:State w:st="on">SC.</st1:State></st1:place><br>
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--- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Thu, 8/27/09, rclarry@aol.com <i><span
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From: rclarry@aol.com <rclarry@aol.com><br>
Subject: Re: Question?<br>
To: chatwkat1@aol.com<br>
Cc: smaragdz@bellsouth.net, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">bob@toprudder.com</st1:PersonName><br>
Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 9:57 AM</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Hey Kathy,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> I haven't flown pattern for
many years, and only at lower levels then. So I'm not that familiar
with the requirements/rules now. But,,,,, I do think I can put
you in touch with a couple of guys who can. One of which is a fellow club
member<em><i><font face="Times New Roman"> Bob Richards</font></i></em> who
had a very successful pattern career in years past. He has returned to to
R/C in recent years and he and his son Matt have competed in IMAC together(
pattern competition with giant scale models) with good success. Bob may
still have some good points of contact in the pattern scene who could
help your son Patrick. I'll forward this e-mail to Bob.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> Also, I am forwarding this to
Horizon Hobby Team Member<em><i><font face="Times New Roman"> Ryan Smith</font></i></em>
of <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Greensboro</st1:City> <st1:State
w:st="on">NC</st1:State></st1:place>. Ryan is very active in the pattern
scene now and I'm sure he would be more than willing to offer advice or
help to your son. Ryan has been very successful in pattern, and currently
involved on a world team level that is competing for the <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">USA</st1:country-region></st1:place>
team now. Another great guy in our sport who I feel could help you and your
son. Hope this helps. If you have any questions you feel I may help out
with, feel free to call me.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Larry Lewis</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> 919-231-4983 home</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> 919-215-3946
cell<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: chatwkat1@aol.com<br>
To: rclarry@aol.com<br>
Sent: Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:22 pm<br>
Subject: Question?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Mr. Larry Lewis;<br>
I am writing on behalf of my son Patrick Frost age 17. He attends High
School in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Greenville</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">SC.</st1:State></st1:place> While searching for some information
on remote control flying I found your event "Children's Charity
Fly-in" and found your name. Sir I hope you don't mind me contacting
you and I will try to get to the point of my contacting you. Patrick has
become interested in flying F3P. He flies, electric motor planes and is a
good pilot. We are having a very difficult time finding anyone with any
knowledge about pattern flying. We are very limited because we have never
become involved in any type of flying club. The High School Patrick attends
requires what they call a Senior Project in which the student picks a
project to explore and report on at the end of eight months. My question to
you is simply can you help us with a name or any information on F3P at this
point anything and I do mean anything would be greatly appreciated and
highly valued! If he does not come up with someone to talk to in the next
few days he is going to have to choose a different topic which would be
very disapointing. <br>
I sincerely thank you for your time!<br>
Kathy Frost<br>
864-963-0592<br>
864-201-2312</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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