<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV>"I find it discouraging that NSRCA and AMA are not on the first page of google results....."</DIV>
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<DIV>There's a way to fix that, you know. :)</DIV>
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<DIV>Luckily Ed Hartley's site comes up at the top of the list so all is not lost. VBG</DIV>
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<DIV>John Pavlick<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 8/28/09, John Gayer <I><jgghome@comcast.net></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: John Gayer <jgghome@comcast.net><BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Grow Pattern - was Club Locator<BR>To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 9:37 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>These days most will go to the computer for information. A simple request in google for "rc pattern" will turn up enough infoand links to keep you busy for several days. The main problem with getting information and generating interest is that there are entire states with only a handful of pattern flyers and no contests. The usual stimulant for pattern interest is seeing someone fly a reasonable pattern at a local club field.<BR>I find it discouraging that NSRCA and AMA are not on the first page of google results.....<BR><BR><BR>John<BR><BR>John Pavlick wrote:<BR>> Larry,<BR>> What you're doing IS a good way to spread the word. Keep doing it. More people need to follow your lead. It may take some time but you WILL see results.<BR>> <BR>> Pattern simply doesn't have the "presence" that it once did. Back in the 70's and early 80's Pattern was the top of the game. And EVERYONE knew it. Not anymore. At least not as far
as the average R/C pilot goes - they're mostly into "3D". Not that that's a "bad" thing but it explains why most Pattern contests nowadays have about 15 - 20 pilots whereas in the 70's it was closer to 4-5 times that amount.<BR>> <BR>> We need to use the internet to our advantage. When you see someone on RCU asking about Pattern - Help them. No matter how busy you are. No matter how "obvious" the answer is. No matter how "stupid" the question is.<BR>> <BR>> Better yet, when you see someone on one of the 3D or scale forums asking about things that can be answered with a plug for Pattern - do it. VBG<BR>> <BR>> Spread the word. It doesn't cost anything. You won't get evryone but you might get someone. That's all we need to make progress. :)<BR>> <BR>> John Pavlick<BR>> <A href="http://www.idseng.com/" target=_blank>http://www.idseng.com</A><BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa n Larry" <<A
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lld613@psci.net" ymailto="mailto:lld613@psci.net">lld613@psci.net</A>><BR>> To: "'General pattern discussion'" <<A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 12:25 AM<BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Grow Pattern - was Club Locator<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>> Ok...Here we go again...<BR>>> <BR>>> My thoughts...<BR>>> <BR>>> We need to get an article into one the main stream mags about how to get<BR>>> started in pattern and what is pattern.<BR>>> <BR>>> I believe Eric Henderson did this a few years back... But we need to keep<BR>>> advertising and budget the $$$ in our annual planning. Have an Advertisement<BR>>> that simply says, "Want to Try Pattern...Call your
nearest NSRCA District<BR>>> VP", and list all the VP's...<BR>>> <BR>>> Someone covers a large contest...Submit it to the AMA Mags, Fly RC, MAN,<BR>>> etc... Boast Pattern and NSRCA in the same sentence...Folks will start to<BR>>> connect the dots...<BR>>> <BR>>> Secondly, do what I'm doing in my local area...Talk to people, fly the<BR>>> planes...Talk up pattern without pushing it on people...<BR>>> <BR>>> I've haven't been to our local field in over a year...But when Lisa and I<BR>>> showed up, they knew who I was because of the planes and I'm easy to talk<BR>>> with...I've let folks fly my pattern planes...<BR>>> <BR>>> I have CDed Pattern Contests before (not since 2005)...<BR>>> <BR>>> Has it netted a member, nope...But they know if someone has a question about<BR>>> pattern in our club, they can get a hold of me...<BR>>> <BR>>> If I
was to actually start making contests again, I would be willing to bet<BR>>> I could get one or two to go with me...<BR>>> <BR>>> That should get this discussion going again...<BR>>> <BR>>> I have also sold 2M planes dirt cheap if I knew someone wanted to try<BR>>> pattern...<BR>>> <BR>>> Larry Diamond<BR>>> <BR>>> -----Original Message-----<BR>>> From: <A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>>> [mailto:<A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>] On Behalf Of Tim<BR>>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:13 PM<BR>>> To: General pattern discussion<BR>>>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Club Locator<BR>>> <BR>>> So what is your solution. I hear you saying what doesn't work.<BR>>> What do you propose will work ?<BR>>> <BR>>> On Aug 27, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Lisa n Larry wrote:<BR>>> <BR>>>> Jim,<BR>>>> <BR>>>> My zip is 47579 (Santa Claus, IN)...<BR>>>> <BR>>>> Please enter my zip and tell me which clubs can help me with<BR>>>> pattern....<BR>>>> <BR>>>> There are about 5 clubs within an hour or so. Two of the clubs have<BR>>>> members<BR>>>> that heard of pattern. I'm one, and the other flew back in the<BR>>>> 70's...There<BR>>>> may be more, but after 15 years in this area I haven't came in<BR>>>> contact with<BR>>>> them...<BR>>>> <BR>>>> Club locators don't help getting involved with pattern...<BR>>>>
<BR>>>> Larry Diamond<BR>>>> <BR>>>> <BR>>>> -----Original Message-----<BR>>>> From: <A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>>>> [mailto:<A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>] On Behalf Of J N<BR>>>> Hiller<BR>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:57 PM<BR>>>> To: NSRCA Mailing List<BR>>>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Club Locator<BR>>>> <BR>>>> <A href="http://www.modelaircraft.org/clubsearch.aspx" target=_blank>http://www.modelaircraft.org/clubsearch.aspx</A><BR>>>> <BR>>>> Here's a link to the AMA club
locator. Just enter your ZIP code and<BR>>>> mileage<BR>>>> radius (25-250). I picked up 8 within 25 mi and 40 within 250.<BR>>>> <BR>>>> Jim H<BR>>>> <BR>>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>>>> <A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" ymailto="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>>>> <A href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target=_blank>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</A><BR>>>> <BR>>>> <BR>>>> <BR>>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>>>> <A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
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