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<DIV>Here's another thing that can go wrong without being noticed: how many times have you plugged each aileron into the wrong channel? In other words the left aileron gets plugged into the channel that's programmed for the right aileron and vise versa. This doesn't reverse the direction but the trim gets messed up. A trick that I learned from Joe Lachowski was to use JR extensions on one servo and Rx channel and Futaba extensions on the other. It's pretty hard to plug the wrong servo in this way even if you're wiring is a chaotic mess.</DIV>
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<DIV>John <SPAN>Pavlick</SPAN><BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 8/24/09, Jay Marshall <I><lightfoot@sc.rr.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Just “wiggling” doesn’t do it. After changing servos, I “wiggled” and everything was fine .. until airborne. The new servos rotated the opposite direction and the ailerons were reversed! </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Richard Strickland<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">August 24, 2009</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">10:28 AM</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">There was an old saw about pilots who had landed gear up this reminds me of: "There are two types of pilots--those that have landed gear up and those that are <EM><I><FONT face=Verdana><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">going to</SPAN></FONT></I></EM>.." And then a few--well actually <EM><I><FONT face=Verdana><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">many</SPAN></FONT></I></EM> years ago--there was another article in FLYING by a guy who had landed gear up for the second time... So he changed it to: "There are <EM><I><FONT face=Verdana><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">three</SPAN></FONT></I></EM> types of pilots--those that have, those that are going to--and those that are going to <EM><I><FONT face=Verdana><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">again</SPAN></FONT></I></EM>..." <BR>I lost a perfect Tipo 750 way back and
a nice Temptation more recently by not plugging in the ailerons and was distracted both times during assembly--and not wiggling the surfaces prior to take-off.<BR>RS<BR> </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A title=jaqfly@prodigy.net href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jaqfly@prodigy.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:jaqfly@prodigy.net">Jim Quinn</A> ; <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</A> </SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Saturday, August 22, 2009 5:50 PM</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Verdana size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">My favorite "trick" is to neglect to attach the aileron servo connections if I am disturbed while assembling the airplane. Consequently, John Fuqua asks me to "wiggle the sticks" before carrying the airplane out; it's saved my airplane twice already. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=NormalWeb1 style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">PS, probably repairable over the winter. Fuse is in 2 pieces with a lot of damage, and the wing that hit is pretty messed up. It’ll be a project for sure. </SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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