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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle20><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi Rex,
that caught my eye right away, in-flight thrust adjustment.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle20><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Mount the
motor on a flexible rubber sheet donut shaped disk and move the rear of the
motor with two servos (V&H axis), mixing as needed. Maybe clamp onto the
front housing behind the drive washer. Might have to run a 4+" spinner. <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Since I'm
in the middle of designing a new airframe anyway I will ruff out a drawing and
bring it to Creswell.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>When I get
the header for the 1.60 I was going to breadboard the power system for a
backyard run-up to get an idea what the tune length would need to be. Maybe I
could check out some thrust vectoring ideas with the same set-up. Might not
happen until I get back from the Scale Masters though. <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jim<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Rex<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, August 23, 2009
10:07 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
FAT Rudder</span></font></p>
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12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Here's a link to
Chad's blog. He talked to Bernd Bernshorner about his motor
offset... there's a short <br>
blurb about it....<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.chadnortheast.ca/">http://www.chadnortheast.ca/</a><br>
<br>
Rex<br>
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:00:19 -0400<br>
To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
From: chuenkan@comcast.net<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAT Rudder<br>
<br>
</span></font><font color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana;
color:black'>Yes, (del aleman = of the <u>some country</u> I think, maybe
German[y]) Gunther Ulsamer has a carbon fiber strip to reduce turbulence,
and something about laminar flow.<br>
<br>
Yes, definitely thrust-vectoring on the Plettenberg motor -- looks like there
are 7 positions or steps to the vectoring. I'd bet that really helps in a
cross-wind!!!<br>
<br>
Also, I didn't notice the deflectors at the bottom of the fuse -- I guess that
will counter any roll-coupling effect from the top ones. I'd love to see
an assessment of what they do and how well...<br>
<br>
All just further proof that aerobatics competition breeds innovation! :-$<br>
<br>
At 11:30 AM 8/23/2009, you wrote:<br>
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auto;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>There were deflectors at
the bottom of the rudder too. Looks he is using vector thrusting on the
motor too. Something in there too about a tubulator on the wing or stab.... me
Portuguese ezz no very goot either.<br>
</span></font><font color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana;
color:black'> <br>
Wayne Galligan<br>
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:chuenkan@comcast.net">Phil Spelt</a> </span></font><font size=2
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face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>To:
<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a>
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face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Sent:
Sunday, August 23, 2009 10:45 AM</span></font><font size=2 color=black
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Subject: Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] FAT Rudder</span></font><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>My Portugese is not
good at all, but I believe the message says it is Austrian Mayr Gehards, and
something about an innovative (????something) small deflector on the
upper part of the vertical stabilizer...Anyone have any idea what they are
supposed to do -- what's the benefit, other than increased tail-feather
drag??? Does it direct more airflow over the Rudder at the top?
Seems to me that they might add more roll-coupling, what with the increased
effect at the TOP of the rudder...</span></font><font size=2 color=black
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09:38 AM 8/23/2009, you wrote:<br>
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12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Check out the rudder
on the plane part way down this page,,,,, Gehards from the WC I
beleive.....</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
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color=maroon face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:maroon;font-weight:
bold;font-style:italic'>There are only two types of aircraft -- fighters and
targets.<br>
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</span></font></i></b><font color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-family:
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Radio Control Society, Inc.<br>
URL: <a href="http://www.kcrctn.com/">http://www.kcrctn.com<br>
</a>AMA--1294, Scientific Leader Member, SPA--177<br>
My URL: <a
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