I also support my advice on getting a Chrysler/Dodge Minivan with stow and go seats because right now everyone is going for better gas mileage and the minivans will give you lower mileage and lower prices. Hey the Dodge/Chrysler Minivans get 24+ mpg. Ask Mike Darr, he swears by them<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:33 PM, mike mueller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com">mups1953@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote"> Phil don't you think that the nations attached to most cars is kind of muddled? I mean Honda, Nissan and Toyota make a lot of cars here in the US employing a lot of Americans. Ford makes a lot of their cars in Mexico and Canada and South America. Stock holders own car company's up until recently with the Chrysler/ GM debacle. Stock holders from Asia own stock in American companies and American's own stock in Toyota and Honda. Chrysler is now owned by Fiat an Italian company. Mazda is 40% owned by Ford and the list goes on and on. I'm not usre what makes sense anymore. Mike<br>
<br>--- On Fri, 8/14/09, Phil Spelt <<a href="mailto:chuenkan@comcast.net">chuenkan@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br><br>> From: Phil Spelt <<a href="mailto:chuenkan@comcast.net">chuenkan@comcast.net</a>><br>
<div class="im">> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Vehicle<br>> To: "General pattern discussion" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br></div>
> Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 10:13 AM<br>
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<div class="h5">><br>><br>> Toyota and Honda(?) may be American<br>> assembled, but the<br>> corporate profits go straight to Tokyo -- I have an '83<br>> Mazda RX-7<br>> classic, restored, but that's the ONLY Japanese or<br>
> Korean car I will EVER<br>> own or drive...that includes rentals, too!!!<br>><br>><br>> At 09:06 AM 8/14/2009, you wrote:<br>><br>> OK<br>> question. What would<br>> one expect to pay for a Toyota or Honda van vs: the<br>
> Chryslers? Also what<br>> does GM make van wise that's decent anymore? Thanks,<br>> Mike<br>><br>><br>> I wish Ford still made a van. I really like my 2003<br>> Windstar.<br>><br>><br>><br>
> --- On Fri, 8/14/09, richard wallace<br>> <<a href="mailto:rickwallace45@gmail.com">rickwallace45@gmail.com</a>><br>> wrote:<br>><br>><br>> > From: richard wallace <<a href="mailto:rickwallace45@gmail.com">rickwallace45@gmail.com</a>><br>
><br>> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Vehicle<br>><br>> > To: "General pattern discussion"<br>> <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
><br>> > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:40 AM<br>><br>> > The Chrysler sounds good, but you<br>><br>> > might consider a Toyota (American made if that<br>> counts)<br>><br>> > Sienna, either new or used (2004 or later model<br>
> year).<br>><br>> ><br>><br>> > 168K since new on my '04 and it's been<br>><br>> > rock-solid every day. Absolutely reliable, holds<br>> everything.<br>><br>> ><br>><br>
> > No Stow and Go on mine, but I removed the folding<br>> rear<br>><br>> > seat (2 bolts) and decked it over, and it's a<br>> GREAT<br>><br>> > hidden storage area.<br>><br>> ><br>
><br>> ><br>><br>> > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 6:45 PM,<br>><br>> > John Konneker <<a href="mailto:jlkonn@hotmail.com">jlkonn@hotmail.com</a>><br>><br>> > wrote:<br>><br>> ><br>
><br>> ><br>><br>> > I'm afraid it's time to bid our Expedition<br>><br>> > adieu.<br>><br>> > Looking around I'm thinking about a minivan.<br>><br>> > Yep, I'm really getting old.<br>
><br>> > If anyone has any recommendations I'd really<br>> appreciate<br>><br>> > hearing them.<br>><br>> ><br>><br>> > Thanks!<br>><br>> > JLK<br>><br>> ><br>><br>
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