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color:#1F497D'>You must have had a different guy. My guy was ALWAYS in a hurry
and generally upset when I popped the canopy to unplug the battery. He did
finally learn to say “battery” though and I learned to nod my head
in the affirmative in response. He still didn’t like it though.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Verne<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>J Shu<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 03, 2009 7:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Inspection & Weighing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Verne,
there is an easy way that Dave and I took care of it. Dave put the plane down
outside the tent (aimed away from everyone towards the runway), standing over
the tail and did not move until I arrived. I then had the official watch me as
I pulled open the canopy and unplugged the battery, then put the canopy back
on. Then I spun the prop and stuck my finger in there... he usually laughed and
nodded. I think everyone knows not to get around a prop when the battery is
plugged in. At least I hope so. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>But
having the fully enclosed tent was great. It was closed off to the high winds
and it didn't matter what battery you weighed with during processing. I always
weigh with my heaviest battery during processing so that I know I'm safe with
the lighter one's. This month it wont be a problem as I will be running all the
same batteries with short leads.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Regards,<br>
Jason<br>
<a href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com">www.shulmanaviation.com</a><br>
<a href="http://www.composite-arf.com">www.composite-arf.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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2009 6:01 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In Argentina, there was a tent set up solely for that purpose
right off the runway. The scale had a sheet of what appeared to be drywall
sitting on it so the plane was weighed sitting on its wheels (as opposed to a
belly pan crushing stand). The only downside was having to try and explain in
English to the Spanish speaking official why it was necessary to unplug the
motor batteries before being weighed for safety’s sake.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Verne<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>krishlan
fitzsimmons<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 03, 2009 4:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> dkrev@shaw.ca; General pattern discussion<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Where do they weigh at a
worlds event? Outside in the wind?<br>
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Just curious. <br>
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Thx!<o:p></o:p></p>
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From: dkrev@shaw.ca <dkrev@shaw.ca><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Inspection & Weighing<br>
To: "General pattern discussion"
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 12:30 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>We got weighed after each round at the worlds..... Just
saying :-)<br>
Sent from Dave's Crackberry<br>
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From: John Fuqua <<a href="/mc/compose?to=johnfuqua@embarqmail.com">johnfuqua@embarqmail.com</a>><br>
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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:35:25 <br>
To: 'General pattern discussion'<<a
href="/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Inspection & Weighing<br>
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<br>
Better be prepared to weigh 4 or 5 sets of batteries with each competitor as<br>
well as airplanes. <br>
<br>
That's the thing with glow. Only dry weight counts. You can load
as much<br>
fuel as you wish to any weight! Electric stuck at a fixed max T.O.
Weight.<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
[mailto:<a href="/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Derek<br>
Koopowitz<br>
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 12:37 PM<br>
To: General pattern discussion<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Inspection & Weighing<br>
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I don't see an issue with this... we will put a sticker on all items<br>
including all packs that a competitor will use. If a competitor really<br>
wants to cheat then they will do it... nothing we can do will stop that.<br>
I'm also hoping that random inspections will keep people honest and the fear<br>
that if you do fail then you will be disqualified.<br>
<br>
<br>
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Jay Marshall <<a
href="/mc/compose?to=lightfoot@sc.rr.com">lightfoot@sc.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I have some concern that the proposals put forward will
really work.<br>
If the plane is inspected at check-in then there is too much opportunity to<br>
change things. In particular, batteries, which are a normally removable<br>
item, can be changed to decrease on increase the weight. Do we
"sticker" the<br>
battery pack? This means the plane must be disassembled for inspection and<br>
that only that battery pack can be used. At present fuel tanks can also be<br>
under/over filled to adjust ballast for windy conditions.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
If this is a serious problem, perhaps there are other
solutions. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Planes could be placed in an impound/inspection area
immediately<br>
before a flight and fully fueled. The inspection could happen here and<br>
shouldn't delay the flow of the contest.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Another possibility is to adopt a "standard"
weight for a battery<br>
pack, then weigh electric planes empty. The "standard" could change
as<br>
technology changes.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
As John Pavlick will tell you, all major race winners
undergo a<br>
teardown and inspection.<br>
<br>
Jay Marshall <br>
<br>
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