<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV>Mike: I can bring a set of L.E. radius gauges if that helps... LOL</DIV>
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<DIV>Ron: I wouldn't worry too much about gyros and autopilots. These add considerable weight. VBG</DIV>
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<DIV>John Pavlick</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;<BR>--- On <B>Tue, 8/4/09, Mike Hester <I>&lt;kerlock@comcast.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Mike Hester &lt;kerlock@comcast.net&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: [<SPAN>NSRCA</SPAN>-discussion] Inspection &amp; Weighing<BR>To: "General pattern discussion" &lt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt;<BR>Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 2:35 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>Like a radius guage for the leading edges? =)<BR><BR>I'm just sayin.....we aren't checkin everything anyway, like Ron said.<BR><BR>-Mike<BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Van Putte" &lt;<A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vanputte@cox.net" ymailto="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">vanputte@cox.net</A>&gt;<BR>To: "General pattern discussion" &lt;<A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>&gt;<BR>Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 2:14 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Inspection &amp; Weighing<BR><BR><BR>&gt; I am getting a bit impatient with this discussion about size and&nbsp; weight measurement for everyone's airplanes before competition and&nbsp; the conducting of random spot checks.&nbsp; OK.&nbsp; Let's do that, but how&nbsp; about if we enforce EVERY rule in the rule
 book.&nbsp; What about the&nbsp; rules against gyros and autopilots?&nbsp; Shouldn't we also check every&nbsp; airplane for them before flying commences?&nbsp; How about random spot&nbsp; checks after flights to make sure no gyros and autopilots were added&nbsp; after the original verification?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; There are other rules already in the rule book that we don't verify&nbsp; for compliance..&nbsp; Do we want to go down that road?&nbsp; How about&nbsp; considering competitors as honorable as a start and only check the&nbsp; size and weight measurement for the finalists.&nbsp; Otherwise, we need to&nbsp; check everyone's airplanes for complying with all the rules.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Ron VP<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; On Aug 4, 2009, at 10:33 AM, <A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rcmaster199@aol.com" ymailto="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com">rcmaster199@aol.com</A> wrote:<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; If someone wants/needs to "cheat" with an overweight
 plane, I have&nbsp; no problem letting them.<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; If someone wants/needs to "cheat" with preprogrammed sequencing or&nbsp; a larger airframe than 2 X 2 m, a different story<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; MattK<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt;&gt; From: Bob Kane &lt;<A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=getterflash@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com">getterflash@yahoo.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; To: General pattern discussion &lt;<A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; Sent: Tue, Aug 4, 2009 9:50 am<BR>&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Inspection &amp; Weighing<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; #AOLMsgPart_3_9ae5f3a0-a5b0-4046-b74a-8c614ebbcf50 DIV {margin:0px;}<BR>&gt;&gt; I agree, trying to compare ourselves to any other AMA
 NATS event is&nbsp; a slippery slope. Let's clean our own house and not worry about&nbsp; anybody else.<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; Since I fall squarely in the "social" NATS category I would&nbsp; certainly volunteer to tech inspect aircraft prior to any official&nbsp; flying. I'm not going to gain much by getting a few last practice&nbsp; fllights in.<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; As for the possibility of cheating, well, we can only do so much.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;A quick check to insure the batteries installed at measurement time&nbsp; are capable of a full flight for whatever class the pilot has&nbsp; entered.&nbsp; I can't imagine saving much weight with a smaller tank&nbsp; for nitro planes, but same thing goes.<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; Bob Kane<BR>&gt;&gt; <A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=getterflash@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com">getterflash@yahoo.com</A><BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; From:
 Bill's Email &lt;<A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wemodels@cox.net" ymailto="mailto:wemodels@cox.net">wemodels@cox.net</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; To: General pattern discussion &lt;<A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 9:32:09 AM<BR>&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Inspection &amp; Weighing<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; Joe Lachowski wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; #AOLMsgPart_3_9ae5f3a0-a5b0-4046-b74a-8c614ebbcf50 .hmmessage P {margin:0px;padding:0px;}#AOLMsgPart_3_9ae5f3a0-a5b0-4046- b74a-8c614ebbcf50 body.hmmessage{font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;}<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<BR>&gt;&gt; NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>&gt;&gt; <A
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