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Maybe Jerry could detail this in a Kfactor article. Perhaps could be used at locals to help with an oversized Masters group.<BR>
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Anthony<BR> <BR>
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:45:19 -0700<BR>From: derekkoopowitz@gmail.com<BR>To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?<BR><BR>
<DIV>Jerry Budd had a good suggestion in running 4 mini-contests for 6 rounds where each pilot would fly against their group for 6 straight rounds and then the top 3 from each group would fly in the finals. I'm leaning toward this because the current format does not work. We also need to do something about FAI - because there isn't equal exposure there either.</DIV>
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<DIV class=EC_gmail_quote>On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:41 PM, John Fuqua <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:johnfuqua@embarqmail.com">johnfuqua@embarqmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=EC_gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Every Nats I went to that had all events in 2 weeks ended up screwing<BR>Pattern out of time or space. It never failed. I am against it even<BR>thought I liked to go see other events. We cannot do a first rate job when<BR>we compete for runway space and days to fly.<BR><BR>I thought AMA wanted to reduce Nats costs. Moving them around does not do<BR>that if you look at history and read up you will find a consistent comment<BR>about reducing Nats costs. NPAC was fully funded by the pilots and it cost<BR>more than a typical Nats so factor that in.<BR><BR>No one has addressed the equal exposure to judges issues for the current<BR>format yet and Mike's proposal does not correct that situation for Masters.<BR>I had one person suggest to me that if we continue to use the Matrix system<BR>that we take the top 3 pilots from each "Group" to a 3 round finals. At<BR>least then we have equal judging exposure and more or less equal weather<BR>exposure per round.<BR><BR>John<BR>
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<DIV class=h5>[mailto:<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>] On Behalf Of Tony<BR>Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 2:56 PM<BR>To: 'General pattern discussion'<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?<BR><BR>That is a possibility also. AMA is thinking about returning the NATS to a 2<BR>week all-events NATS like used to be done. If all events are together, HQ<BR>can put all costs into one effort. If they are all split up, Each group<BR>would have more costs to deal with due to the fact that HQ can't send a<BR>group of people to every site.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Tony Stillman, President<BR><BR>Radio South, Inc.<BR><BR>139 Altama Connector, Box 322<BR><BR>Brunswick, GA 31525<BR><BR>1-800-962-7802<BR><BR><A href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com/">www.radiosouthrc.com</A><BR><BR>________________________________<BR><BR>From: <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>[mailto:<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>] On Behalf Of Tim Taylor<BR>Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 3:39 PM<BR>To: General pattern discussion<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?<BR><BR><BR><BR>It was done, It was called NPAC<BR><BR><BR><BR>Tim<BR><BR>--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Bill's Email <<A href="mailto:wemodels@cox.net">wemodels@cox.net</A>> wrote:<BR><BR><BR> From: Bill's Email <<A href="mailto:wemodels@cox.net">wemodels@cox.net</A>><BR> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in<BR>2010?<BR> To: "General pattern discussion" <<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 2:06 PM<BR><BR> Why not allow the SIGS to do their own thing? IMAC and NSRCA do not<BR>need to share a site. The LSF can find a site for the soaring NATS. Pylon<BR>knows what venues work for them and so on. FF can do their own thing as<BR>well. Why tie soaring and FF together and so on??<BR><BR><BR> Tony wrote:<BR><BR> Matt:<BR> Yes, it is just difficult to tell if it is actually feasible. The<BR>problem is that it requires a large site for Pattern/Pylon/IMAC and will<BR>require another large site for Soaring/Outdoor FF. It may be very difficult<BR>to actually find places that can handle this group.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> Tony Stillman, President<BR><BR> Radio South, Inc.<BR><BR>139 Altama Connector, Box 322<BR><BR>Brunswick, GA 31525<BR><BR> 1-800-962-7802<BR><BR></DIV></DIV><A href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com/">www.radiosouthrc.com</A> <<A href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com/">http://www.radiosouthrc.com/</A>><BR>
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