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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>Thanks Dave.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Dave<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, July 31, 2009 7:50
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
FW: nats format</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Agree for FAI - part of
the reason the F-09 is flown for the semi’s and the 4 rounds are flown for the
finals is because this is the system that will best prepare the FAI pilots for
the WC. The level at which the F is flown by the top pilots often
warrants a closer look for the top 8 (vs the top 20 in the semi finals).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We all pay the same entry
fee, so why is it some get to fly more than others? Valid question, not
unlike why don’t Intermediate, Sportsman, and Advanced get as much airtime per
flight as Masters. I’d point out that in most competitive events, there
are classes which are graded in experience (skill) required, the performance
level/requirements of the equipment, and often the time needed to complete the
event. It only makes sense that sequences get gradually more difficult,
longer, and require higher performance equipment. F3A, being driven by
the WC, has understandably reduced the sequence length due to time considerations
at the WC. The structure of the flying at the NATs is to pick the best,
and it is not the same for all classes because of the differences in the
classes (one size does not fit all).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Why is there a finals
(and semi finals) for F3A at the US NATs? Several reasons –<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- With the often large
number of pilots, several unequal conditions do or may exist – weather
variations, site variations, and the matrix system may be used (which does not
provide equal exposure amongst competing pilots). So the goal of the
prelims is too make sure that those that have a reasonable shot at winning are
included in the group that makes it out of the prelims (the actual placing of
the pilots leaving the prelims is not the primary goal of the prelims) into the
semifinals where the unequal conditions are eliminated/reduced (possible
because of the smaller number of pilots in the semifinals).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- the semifinals are used
to ensure that all finalists are capable of flying the F sequence (this was
added several years ago, based on experience, and as voted on by the FAI pilots
– many of who realized adding the semifinals would reduce their personal flying
time).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- the finals are to pick
the best of the best – the skill level in F3A at the US NATs is high enough
that it is extremely difficult to distinguish the top pilots on the P schedule
alone.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Why is there a finals for
Masters at the US NATs?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- With the often large
number of pilots, several unequal conditions do or may exist – weather
variations, site variations, and the matrix system may be used (which does not
provide equal exposure amongst competing pilots). So the goal of the
prelims is too make sure that those that have a reasonable shot at winning are
included in the group that makes it out of the prelims.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- In the finals, all
pilots fly within a small time window, and the chances of unequal conditions
are greatly reduced, and it is much easier for a judge to accurately judge and
rank 8 pilots.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- The finals in Masters
is often very close, with the winners capable of flying F3A P at a similar
level. I believe Masters pilots are flying Masters, in part, because they
don’t want to be burdened by flying 2 schedules (F3A P and F) and unknowns.
So, the Masters finals ends up being very close some years.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- No scores from the
prelims should be carried forward to the finals. The matrix system does
not have equal exposure and does impart a degree of bias to the results.
This bias is best left to the prelims, and not brought forward to the finals.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Why is there not a finals
in Intermediate and Advanced?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- Because the first 6
rounds of flying occur within a relatively small window, at the same site, so
the probability of unequal conditions (poor weather in part of a round) are
greatly reduced.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- the smaller number of
flyers and reduced judging time increases the accuracy of pilot ranking for the
group as a whole.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- The majority of years,
the depth of flying is not enough to warrant a finals for a “closer” look, and
additional rounds are not going to change the result (unlike Masters and F3A where
placings pretty routinely change).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The added detail of the
finals for Masters and semifinals/finals for F3A has everything to do with
picking the best pilot out of larger groups with more pilot depth – in essence,
a closer look is needed. It has nothing to do with screwing the
Intermediate and Advanced pilots out of flying time, prestige, or glory.
It has nothing to do with feeding the ego of the Masters or F3A pilots.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So far as the banquet and
awards ceremony (and announcement of semi finalists and finalists). It
would be nice to have a large audience for the presentation of trophies/awards
to all pilots for all classes, and for the announcement of semi finalists and
finalists – BUT – the logistics just don’t support that. In the years
I’ve attended the NATs, I’ve gotten my award at packed banquets, and in the
middle of the field with a handful of people left. My suggestion would be
hold the banquet when the largest turnout will occur, and let the
awards/announcements fall where they may. Bias the banquet to give the
crowds and glory to the Intermediate and Advanced pilots – more people have a
better shot at getting a NATs award “on the way up” than they do in Masters or
F3A (which are never attained by some).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dave Lockhart<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>J Shu<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, July 31, 2009 8:54
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
FW: nats format</span></font><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I prefer to leave FAI alone
and leave it as a 4 round finals. Besides, the rules state it to be flown this
way.</span></font><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I do like the addition of
the Advanced/Intermediate finals.</span></font><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><br>
Regards,<br>
Jason<br>
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color:black'>----- Original Message ----- </span></font><font size=2
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<div style='font-color:black'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:drmikedds@sbcglobal.net" title="drmikedds@sbcglobal.net">michael s
harrison</a> </span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'General pattern discussion'</a> </span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>
Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:29 AM</span></font><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> [NSRCA-discussion] FW: nats format</span></font><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Times New Roman";color:black'> </span></font><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>
michael s harrison [mailto:drmikedds@sbcglobal.net] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, July 29, 2009
3:45 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Don Ramsey'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> nats format</span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div style='border:none;border-left:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:40.2pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:40.2pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>After
considerable thought and reflection, I would like to share my views of the nats
and the classes flown. I believe we have been very fortunate to have an
excellent group of volunteers that work and sacrifice to make the nats happen.
That group is led by the event director Dave Guerin, who has worked tirelessly
and unselfishly for years at this job. I believe he has responded to our
desires to make this the best national event possible. With that in mind,
there are some changes I believe we can make that would be a win-win for
everyone and reduce the workload as well. </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:40.2pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:40.2pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2
color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>They are:</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div style='border:none;border-left:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:76.2pt;text-indent:-.25in;
border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:
0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>1.</span></font><font size=1 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'>Have a finals for advanced</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div style='border:none;border-left:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:112.2pt;text-indent:-.25in;
border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:
0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>a.</span></font><font size=1 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'>8 finalists</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:112.2pt;text-indent:-.25in;
border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:
0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>b.</span></font><font size=1 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'>3 rounds</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:112.2pt;text-indent:-.25in;
border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:
0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>c.</span></font><font size=1 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'>Judged by advanced or intermediate judges(qualified
volunteers)</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:112.2pt;text-indent:-.25in;
border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:
0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>d.</span></font><font size=1 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'>The site is open so it is not a space issue</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:112.2pt;text-indent:-.25in;
border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:
0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>e.</span></font><font size=1 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'>24 flights would take app 3 hours</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:112.2pt;text-indent:-.25in;
border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:
0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>f.</span></font><font size=1 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'>Do on 4<sup>th</sup> day</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:112.2pt;text-indent:-.25in;
border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:
0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>g.</span></font><font size=1 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'>Count the prelims as a 1000 normalized score</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:112.2pt;text-indent:-.25in;
border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:
0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>h.</span></font><font size=1 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'>Count 3 of 4 scores for the winner</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div style='border:none;border-left:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:76.2pt;text-indent:-.25in;
border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:
0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>2.</span></font><font size=1 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'>Modify masters accordingly</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div style='border:none;border-left:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:112.2pt;text-indent:-.25in;
border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:
0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>a.</span></font><font size=1 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'>3 round finals</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:112.2pt;text-indent:-.25in;
border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:
0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>b.</span></font><font size=1 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'>Count prelims as a 1000 normalized score</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:112.2pt;text-indent:-.25in;
border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:
0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>c.</span></font><font size=1 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'>Count 3 of 4 for the winner</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:112.2pt;text-indent:-.25in;
border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:
0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>d.</span></font><font size=1 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'>10 finalists</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:112.2pt;text-indent:-.25in;
border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:
0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>e.</span></font><font size=1 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'>30 flights about 5.5 hours</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:76.2pt;text-indent:-.25in;
border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:
0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>3.</span></font><font size=1 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'>Fai</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div style='border:none;border-left:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:112.2pt;text-indent:-.25in;
border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:
0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>a.</span></font><font size=1 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'>3 rounds final</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:112.2pt;text-indent:-.25in;
border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:
0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>b.</span></font><font size=1 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'>F-11 flown 1 time</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:112.2pt;text-indent:-.25in;
border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:
0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>c.</span></font><font size=1 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'>Each unknown(1&2) flown once</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:112.2pt;text-indent:-.25in;
border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:
0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>d.</span></font><font size=1 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'>Count the semi-final F-11 scores only as a single 1000
normalized score</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:112.2pt;text-indent:-.25in;
border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:
0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>e.</span></font><font size=1 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'>Count 3 of 4 for the winner</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:112.2pt;text-indent:-.25in;
border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:
0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>f.</span></font><font size=1 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'>10 finalists</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:112.2pt;text-indent:-.25in;
border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:
0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>g.</span></font><font size=1 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'>30 flights about 5.5 hours</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:40.2pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Rationale
behind changes:</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
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color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:40.2pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Advanced </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:40.2pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>This would
make for a very exciting and fun event for the advanced class. It would
make the 4<sup>th</sup> day a very real part of the nats for them. This
format is totally self contained with no additional personnel required.
It could be started and finished before the masters and fai is done. </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:40.2pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Masters </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:40.2pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Masters is
in a real sense an endurance contest. How many times does someone have to
fly the same sequence to prove he is the best in that class. The present
system is 10 times! The only argument is the equal exposure issue-which
may have merit. The system I propose addresses that issue and takes
less time. I raised the number of finalists to 10 to close the argument
that someone is cutout of the finals because of unequal exposure.
Counting the prelim as one of the 4 scores is, in my opinion a legitimate score
to keep-having been earned over a period of 3 days under a number of variables.
Assuming incorrect scoring(bias, unequal exposure, etc.), the competitor has 3
flights to erase that concern. Any 3 flights count so the prelims score
can be dropped. </span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:40.2pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>FAI</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>The
argument for doing 2 Finals pattern is that at the world event in the
semifinals, there is not equal exposure of the pilots and the pool is so large that
conditions can change substantially over the course of doing the semifinals.
This rationale wouldn’t apply at the nats. The semifinals at the nats is
only 2 flights with 20 pilots, using the prelim score as a 1000 normalized
score. Therefore, the 2 F patterns can be combined to be a score carried
over into the finals event. The finals then becomes a single F pattern
and 2 unknowns. Count 3 of 4 scores. I would recommend doing
the F schedule first, then the 2 unknowns. I believe all the other pilots
would love to see FAI unknown finals flown by some of the best pilots in the
world. It would be a showcase event. </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:40.2pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>To
conclude:</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:40.2pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:40.2pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>I believe
this is a win-win for everyone. We would add finals to advanced; both the
Masters and FAI finals would be shortened; the best pilots would be showcased;
more pilots would be in the finals; fewer personnel to do the finals. </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:40.2pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>There is no
perfect system. I am sure there will be objections of some kind, but I
believe this system has real merit and should be implemented. </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Respectfully</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Mike
Harrison</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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