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<DIV><FONT color=#000080 face=Arial>Verne, there is an easy way that Dave and I
took care of it. Dave put the plane down outside the tent (aimed away from
everyone towards the runway), standing over the tail and did not move until I
arrived. I then had the official watch me as I pulled open the canopy and
unplugged the battery, then put the canopy back on. Then I spun the prop and
stuck my finger in there... he usually laughed and nodded. I think everyone
knows not to get around a prop when the battery is plugged in. At least I hope
so. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000080 face=Arial>But having the fully enclosed tent was
great. It was closed off to the high winds and it didn't matter what battery you
weighed with during processing. I always weigh with my heaviest battery during
processing so that I know I'm safe with the lighter one's. This month it wont be
a problem as I will be running all the same batteries with short
leads.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Regards,<BR>Jason<BR><A
href="http://www.shulmanaviation.com">www.shulmanaviation.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.composite-arf.com">www.composite-arf.com</A><BR></DIV>
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<A title=verne@twmi.rr.com href="mailto:verne@twmi.rr.com">Verne Koester</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 03, 2009 6:01
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Argentina, there was a tent set up solely for that purpose right off the
runway. The scale had a sheet of what appeared to be drywall sitting on it so
the plane was weighed sitting on its wheels (as opposed to a belly pan
crushing stand). The only downside was having to try and explain in English to
the Spanish speaking official why it was necessary to unplug the motor
batteries before being weighed for safety’s sake.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>krishlan
fitzsimmons<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 03, 2009 4:33 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
dkrev@shaw.ca; General pattern discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal>Where do they weigh at a
worlds event? Outside in the wind?<BR><BR>Just curious.
<BR><BR>Thx!<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 8/3/09, dkrev@shaw.ca
<I><dkrev@shaw.ca></I></B> wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><BR>From: dkrev@shaw.ca
<dkrev@shaw.ca><BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Inspection
& Weighing<BR>To: "General pattern discussion"
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Date: Monday, August 3,
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<P class=MsoNormal>We got weighed after each round at the worlds.....
Just saying :-)<BR>Sent from Dave's Crackberry<BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: John Fuqua <<A
href="/mc/compose?to=johnfuqua@embarqmail.com">johnfuqua@embarqmail.com</A>><BR><BR>Date:
Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:35:25 <BR>To: 'General pattern discussion'<<A
href="/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>Subject:
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Inspection & Weighing<BR><BR><BR>Better be
prepared to weigh 4 or 5 sets of batteries with each competitor
as<BR>well as airplanes. <BR><BR>That's the thing with glow.
Only dry weight counts. You can load as much<BR>fuel as you wish
to any weight! Electric stuck at a fixed max T.O.
Weight.<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A
href="/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>[mailto:<A
href="/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]
On Behalf Of Derek<BR>Koopowitz<BR>Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 12:37
PM<BR>To: General pattern discussion<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Inspection & Weighing<BR><BR>I don't see an issue with this... we
will put a sticker on all items<BR>including all packs that a competitor
will use. If a competitor really<BR>wants to cheat then they will
do it... nothing we can do will stop that.<BR>I'm also hoping that
random inspections will keep people honest and the fear<BR>that if you
do fail then you will be disqualified.<BR><BR><BR>On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at
9:06 AM, Jay Marshall <<A
href="/mc/compose?to=lightfoot@sc.rr.com">lightfoot@sc.rr.com</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR>
I have some concern that the proposals put forward will really
work.<BR>If the plane is inspected at check-in then there is too much
opportunity to<BR>change things. In particular, batteries, which are a
normally removable<BR>item, can be changed to decrease on increase the
weight. Do we "sticker" the<BR>battery pack? This means the plane must
be disassembled for inspection and<BR>that only that battery pack can be
used. At present fuel tanks can also be<BR>under/over filled to adjust
ballast for windy
conditions.<BR><BR> <BR><BR>
If this is a serious problem, perhaps there are other solutions.
<BR><BR> <BR><BR> Planes
could be placed in an impound/inspection area immediately<BR>before a
flight and fully fueled. The inspection could happen here
and<BR>shouldn't delay the flow of the
contest.<BR><BR> <BR><BR>
Another possibility is to adopt a "standard" weight for a
battery<BR>pack, then weigh electric planes empty. The "standard" could
change as<BR>technology
changes.<BR><BR> <BR><BR>
As John Pavlick will tell you, all major race winners undergo
a<BR>teardown and inspection.<BR><BR> Jay Marshall
<BR><BR> <BR><BR><BR>
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