<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">They should bow out of respect.<br><div> </div>Bob Kane<br>getterflash@yahoo.com<div><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> John Pavlick <jpavlick@idseng.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, July 31, 2009 12:29:51 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?<br></font><br>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font-size: inherit; line-height: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; -x-system-font: none;" valign="top"><div>Embarrassed by flying on 72? Huh? Try riding an old Harley with a drum brake on the front wheel (and a shift pedal on the right side) into a bar with a bunch of rice burners parked out front! LOL</div>
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<div>John Pavlick <br><br>--- On <b>Fri, 7/31/09, mike <span>mueller</span> <i><mups1953@yahoo.com></i></b> wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;"><br>From: mike mueller <mups1953@yahoo.com><br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?<br>To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 12:16 PM<br><br>
<div class="plainMail">I'm still hanging on to 72 for a bunch of reasons and I can tell you that using 72 at the national site is a bad idea. 4 sites and you don't really ever feel safe. I will have 2.4 next time I fly there. 72 is almost like having your own frequency because so many have gone to 2.4. Having 72 this year at the Nats was a bit of an embarrasment for me. It's just that my radio works so well that I hate to change anything. 9 years old and I didn't want to upgrade it but I still love it and I like red shirts too. I guess I got a good one. Mike<br><br>--- On Fri, 7/31/09, Tony <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tony@radiosouthrc.com">tony@radiosouthrc.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> From: Tony <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tony@radiosouthrc.com">tony@radiosouthrc.com</a>><br>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?<br>> To: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jpavlick@idseng.com">jpavlick@idseng.com</a>, "'General pattern discussion'" <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>> Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 11:09 AM<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> There is<br>> nothing in the works to commit<br>> the entire site or the NATS to 2.4Ghz SS only. <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>>
Tony<br>> Stillman, President <br>> <br>> Radio<br>> South, Inc. <br>> <br>> 139 Altama<br>> Connector,<br>> Box 322 <br>> <br>> Brunswick,<br>> GA 31525 <br>> <br>> 1-800-962-7802 <br>> <br>> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</a><br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> From:<br>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>> [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] On Behalf Of John Pavlick<br>> <br>> Sent: Friday,<br>> July 31, 2009 11:20<br>> AM<br>> <br>> To: General<br>> pattern discussion<br>> <br>>
Subject: Re:<br>> [NSRCA-discussion]<br>> Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010? <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Go from 72 to SS? Come on<br>> Joe, I can't<br>> handle this kind of change. I just got rid of my analog<br>> cell phone (the new<br>> digital one drops calls all the time - never happened<br>> with my old phone) and<br>> now I have to ride a bike that has no kick starter<br>> (5-speed Hog). Now you<br>> want me to "update" my toy airplane radio too?<br>> This is just too<br>> much! LOL <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> John Pavlick<br>> <br>> <br>>
<br>> --- On Fri, 7/31/09,<br>> Joe Lachowski < <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jlachow@hotmail.com">jlachow@hotmail.com</a><br>> ><br>> wrote: <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> From: Joe Lachowski < <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jlachow@hotmail.com">jlachow@hotmail.com</a> ><br>> <br>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the<br>> Nats in 2010?<br>> <br>> To: "NSRCA Discussion List"<br>> <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>> <br>> Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 8:36 AM
<br>> It really isn't just about<br>> cutting costs either. It<br>> is also about other AMA membership complaining about the<br>> site not being<br>> available for their use. You would not believe the number<br>> of complaints AMA<br>> has had about the AMA site being tied up. That is why the<br>> overall Nats at the<br>> site has been shortened in length. <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> If you are on 72, better plan on moving over to SS in the<br>> future. I've heard<br>> rumours that the AMA has been considering making the AMA<br>> site SS only in the<br>> future.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Date: Thu, 30 Jul
2009<br>> 20:57:16 -0700<br>> <br>> From: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com">homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com</a><br>> <br>> To: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>> <br>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the<br>> Nats in 2010? <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> This is really funny.<br>> They want to bring the nats to 2 weeks to cut costs. I<br>> am sure they make<br>> money the way it is. Take this for what it is, heresay,<br>> but I heard<br>>
that the members of the club were complaining that the<br>> nats takes too much<br>> of their time away from their field for them to fly.<br>> Wasn't the field built<br>> for a localized nats site? And I'm pretty sure we<br>> all paid for it. The ama<br>> will lose out if they go to a 2 weeks nats IMO. Wait<br>> till they see entry's<br>> decline. <br>> <br>> Chris<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>>
<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> --- On Thu, 7/30/09,<br>> Tony <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tony@radiosouthrc.com">tony@radiosouthrc.com</a>><br>> wrote: <br>> <br>> <br>> From: Tony <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tony@radiosouthrc.com">tony@radiosouthrc.com</a>><br>> <br>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate<br>> the Nats in 2010?<br>> <br>> To: "' General pattern discussion '"<br>> <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>> <br>>
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 12:55<br>> PM <br>> <br>> <br>> That<br>> is a possibility<br>> also. AMA is thinking about returning the NATS to<br>> a 2 week all-events<br>> NATS like used to be done. If all events are<br>> together, HQ can put all<br>> costs into one effort. If they are all split up,<br>> Each group would<br>> have more costs to deal with due to the fact that HQ<br>> can’t send a group of<br>> people to every site. <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>>
Tony<br>> Stillman,<br>> President <br>> Radio<br>> South, Inc. <br>> 139<br>> Altama Connector,<br>> Box 322 <br>> Brunswick,<br>> GA 31525 <br>> 1-800-962-7802<br>> <br><span>> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</a></span><br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> From:<br>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>> [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<br>> On Behalf Of Tim<br>> Taylor<br>> <br>> Sent:<br>> Thursday, July 30, 2009<br>> 3:39 PM<br>> <br>> To:<br>> General<br>> pattern discussion<br>> <br>> Subject:<br>> Re:<br>> [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in<br>> 2010? <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> It was done, It was called<br>> NPAC <br>> <br>> <br>>
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<br>> <br>> Tim<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> --- On Thu,<br>> 7/30/09, Bill's Email <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wemodels@cox.net">wemodels@cox.net</a>><br>> wrote: <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> From: Bill's Email <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wemodels@cox.net">wemodels@cox.net</a>><br>> <br>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate<br>> the Nats in 2010?<br>> <br>> To: " General pattern discussion
<br>> " <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>> <br>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 2:06<br>> PM <br>> <br>> <br>> Why not allow the SIGS to do<br>> their own thing?<br>> IMAC and NSRCA do not need to share a site. The LSF<br>> can find a site for<br>> the soaring NATS. Pylon knows what venues work for<br>> them and so on. FF can<br>> do their own thing as well. Why tie soaring and FF<br>> together and so on??<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>>
<br>> Tony wrote: <br>> <br>> <br>> Matt:<br>> <br>> Yes, it is just difficult to tell if it is actually<br>> feasible… The<br>> problem is that it requires a large site for<br>> Pattern/Pylon/IMAC and will<br>> require another large site for Soaring/Outdoor<br>> FF. It may be very<br>> difficult to actually find places that can handle<br>> this group. <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Tony<br>> Stillman,<br>> President
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