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<DIV>John Pavlick<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 7/31/09, Bob Kane <I><getterflash@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> John Pavlick <jpavlick@idseng.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, July 31, 2009 12:29:51 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?<BR></FONT><BR>
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<DIV>Embarrassed by flying on 72? Huh? Try riding an old Harley with a drum brake on the front wheel (and a shift pedal on the right side) into a bar with a bunch of rice burners parked out front! LOL</DIV>
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<DIV>John Pavlick <BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 7/31/09, mike <SPAN>mueller</SPAN> <I><mups1953@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=plainMail>I'm still hanging on to 72 for a bunch of reasons and I can tell you that using 72 at the national site is a bad idea. 4 sites and you don't really ever feel safe. I will have 2.4 next time I fly there. 72 is almost like having your own frequency because so many have gone to 2.4. Having 72 this year at the Nats was a bit of an embarrasment for me. It's just that my radio works so well that I hate to change anything. 9 years old and I didn't want to upgrade it but I still love it and I like red shirts too. I guess I got a good one. Mike<BR><BR>--- On Fri, 7/31/09, Tony <<A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tony@radiosouthrc.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>tony@radiosouthrc.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>> From: Tony <<A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tony@radiosouthrc.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>tony@radiosouthrc.com</A>><BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the
Nats in 2010?<BR>> To: <A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jpavlick@idseng.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>jpavlick@idseng.com</A>, "'General pattern discussion'" <<A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>> Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 11:09 AM<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> There is<BR>> nothing in the works to commit<BR>> the entire site or the NATS to 2.4Ghz SS only. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Tony<BR>> Stillman, President <BR>> <BR>> Radio<BR>>
South, Inc. <BR>> <BR>> 139 Altama<BR>> Connector,<BR>> Box 322 <BR>> <BR>> Brunswick,<BR>> GA 31525 <BR>> <BR>> 1-800-962-7802 <BR>> <BR>> <A href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>www.radiosouthrc.com</A><BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From:<BR>> <A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>> [mailto:<A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>] On Behalf Of John Pavlick<BR>> <BR>> Sent: Friday,<BR>> July 31, 2009 11:20<BR>> AM<BR>> <BR>> To: General<BR>> pattern discussion<BR>> <BR>> Subject: Re:<BR>> [NSRCA-discussion]<BR>> Flash Poll -
Relocate the Nats in 2010? <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Go from 72 to SS? Come on<BR>> Joe, I can't<BR>> handle this kind of change. I just got rid of my analog<BR>> cell phone (the new<BR>> digital one drops calls all the time - never happened<BR>> with my old phone) and<BR>> now I have to ride a bike that has no kick starter<BR>> (5-speed Hog). Now you<BR>> want me to "update" my toy airplane radio too?<BR>> This is just too<BR>> much! LOL <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> John Pavlick<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> --- On Fri, 7/31/09,<BR>> Joe
Lachowski < <A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jlachow@hotmail.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>jlachow@hotmail.com</A><BR>> ><BR>> wrote: <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: Joe Lachowski < <A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jlachow@hotmail.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>jlachow@hotmail.com</A> ><BR>> <BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the<BR>> Nats in 2010?<BR>> <BR>> To: "NSRCA Discussion List"<BR>> <<A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>> <BR>> Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 8:36 AM <BR>> It really isn't just about<BR>> cutting costs either.
It<BR>> is also about other AMA membership complaining about the<BR>> site not being<BR>> available for their use. You would not believe the number<BR>> of complaints AMA<BR>> has had about the AMA site being tied up. That is why the<BR>> overall Nats at the<BR>> site has been shortened in length. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> If you are on 72, better plan on moving over to SS in the<BR>> future. I've heard<BR>> rumours that the AMA has been considering making the AMA<BR>> site SS only in the<BR>> future.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009<BR>> 20:57:16 -0700<BR>> <BR>> From: <A
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com</A><BR>> <BR>> To: <A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>> <BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the<BR>> Nats in 2010? <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> This is really funny.<BR>> They want to bring the nats to 2 weeks to cut costs. I<BR>> am sure they make<BR>> money the way it is. Take this for what it is, heresay,<BR>> but I heard<BR>> that the members of the club were complaining that the<BR>> nats takes too much<BR>> of their
time away from their field for them to fly.<BR>> Wasn't the field built<BR>> for a localized nats site? And I'm pretty sure we<BR>> all paid for it. The ama<BR>> will lose out if they go to a 2 weeks nats IMO. Wait<BR>> till they see entry's<BR>> decline. <BR>> <BR>> Chris<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> --- On Thu, 7/30/09,<BR>> Tony <<A
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tony@radiosouthrc.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>tony@radiosouthrc.com</A>><BR>> wrote: <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: Tony <<A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tony@radiosouthrc.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>tony@radiosouthrc.com</A>><BR>> <BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate<BR>> the Nats in 2010?<BR>> <BR>> To: "' General pattern discussion '"<BR>> <<A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>> <BR>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 12:55<BR>> PM <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
That<BR>> is a possibility<BR>> also. AMA is thinking about returning the NATS to<BR>> a 2 week all-events<BR>> NATS like used to be done. If all events are<BR>> together, HQ can put all<BR>> costs into one effort. If they are all split up,<BR>> Each group would<BR>> have more costs to deal with due to the fact that HQ<BR>> can’t send a group of<BR>> people to every site. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Tony<BR>> Stillman,<BR>> President <BR>> Radio<BR>> South, Inc. <BR>> 139<BR>> Altama Connector,<BR>> Box 322 <BR>>
Brunswick,<BR>> GA 31525 <BR>> 1-800-962-7802<BR>> <BR><SPAN>> <A href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>www.radiosouthrc.com</A></SPAN><BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From:<BR>> <A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>> [mailto:<A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]<BR>> On Behalf Of Tim<BR>> Taylor<BR>> <BR>> Sent:<BR>> Thursday, July 30, 2009<BR>> 3:39
PM<BR>> <BR>> To:<BR>> General<BR>> pattern discussion<BR>> <BR>> Subject:<BR>> Re:<BR>> [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in<BR>> 2010? <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> It was done, It was called<BR>> NPAC <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Tim<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> --- On Thu,<BR>> 7/30/09, Bill's Email <<A
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wemodels@cox.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow>wemodels@cox.net</A>><BR>> wrote: <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: Bill's Email <<A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wemodels@cox.net" target=_blank rel=nofollow>wemodels@cox.net</A>><BR>> <BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate<BR>> the Nats in 2010?<BR>> <BR>> To: " General pattern discussion <BR>> " <<A href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>> <BR>> Date: Thursday, July 30,
2009, 2:06<BR>> PM <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Why not allow the SIGS to do<BR>> their own thing?<BR>> IMAC and NSRCA do not need to share a site. The LSF<BR>> can find a site for<BR>> the soaring NATS. Pylon knows what venues work for<BR>> them and so on. FF can<BR>> do their own thing as well. Why tie soaring and FF<BR>> together and so on??<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Tony wrote: <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Matt:<BR>> <BR>> Yes, it is just difficult to tell if it is actually<BR>>
feasible… The<BR>> problem is that it requires a large site for<BR>> Pattern/Pylon/IMAC and will<BR>> require another large site for Soaring/Outdoor<BR>> FF. It may be very<BR>> difficult to actually find places that can handle<BR>> this group. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Tony<BR>> Stillman,<BR>> President <BR>> <BR>> Radio<BR>> South, Inc. <BR>> 139<BR>> Altama<BR>> Connector, Box <BR>> 322 <BR>>
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