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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Are you sure they’re not just wharfing up a hairball? </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Sorry, I just couldn’t resist!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John
Pavlick<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 31, 2009 12:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion; Bob Kane<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Sometimes they do. :)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>John Pavlick<br>
<br>
--- On <b>Fri, 7/31/09, Bob Kane <i><getterflash@yahoo.com></i></b>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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From: Bob Kane <getterflash@yahoo.com><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?<br>
To: jpavlick@idseng.com, "General pattern discussion"
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 12:43 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>They should bow out of respect.<o:p></o:p></p>
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getterflash@yahoo.com <o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> John Pavlick
<jpavlick@idseng.com><br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 31, 2009 12:29:51 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"inherit","serif"'>Embarrassed
by flying on 72? Huh? Try riding an old Harley with a drum brake on
the front wheel (and a shift pedal on the right side) into a bar
with a bunch of rice burners parked out front! LOL<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"inherit","serif"'>John
Pavlick <br>
<br>
--- On <b>Fri, 7/31/09, mike mueller <i><mups1953@yahoo.com></i></b>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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From: mike mueller <mups1953@yahoo.com><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?<br>
To: "General pattern discussion"
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 12:16 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"inherit","serif"'>I'm still
hanging on to 72 for a bunch of reasons and I can tell you that using 72 at
the national site is a bad idea. 4 sites and you don't really ever feel
safe. I will have 2.4 next time I fly there. 72 is almost like having your
own frequency because so many have gone to 2.4. Having 72 this year at the
Nats was a bit of an embarrasment for me. It's just that my radio works so
well that I hate to change anything. 9 years old and I didn't want to
upgrade it but I still love it and I like red shirts too. I guess I got a
good one. Mike<br>
<br>
--- On Fri, 7/31/09, Tony <<a
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tony@radiosouthrc.com"
target="_blank">tony@radiosouthrc.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> From: Tony <<a
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tony@radiosouthrc.com"
target="_blank">tony@radiosouthrc.com</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in
2010?<br>
> To: <a
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jpavlick@idseng.com"
target="_blank">jpavlick@idseng.com</a>, "'General pattern
discussion'" <<a
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
> Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 11:09 AM<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> There is<br>
> nothing in the works to commit<br>
> the entire site or the NATS to 2.4Ghz SS only. <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Tony<br>
> Stillman, President <br>
> <br>
> Radio<br>
> South, Inc. <br>
> <br>
> 139 Altama<br>
> Connector,<br>
> Box 322 <br>
> <br>
> Brunswick,<br>
> GA 31525 <br>
> <br>
> 1-800-962-7802 <br>
> <br>
> <a href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com/" target="_blank">www.radiosouthrc.com</a><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> From:<br>
> <a
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
> [mailto:<a
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] On Behalf Of
John Pavlick<br>
> <br>
> Sent: Friday,<br>
> July 31, 2009 11:20<br>
> AM<br>
> <br>
> To: General<br>
> pattern discussion<br>
> <br>
> Subject: Re:<br>
> [NSRCA-discussion]<br>
> Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010? <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Go from 72 to SS? Come on<br>
> Joe, I can't<br>
> handle this kind of change. I just got rid of my
analog<br>
> cell phone (the new<br>
> digital one drops calls all the time - never happened<br>
> with my old phone) and<br>
> now I have to ride a bike that has no kick starter<br>
> (5-speed Hog). Now you<br>
> want me to "update" my toy airplane radio
too?<br>
> This is just too<br>
> much! LOL <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> John Pavlick<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> --- On Fri, 7/31/09,<br>
> Joe Lachowski < <a
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jlachow@hotmail.com"
target="_blank">jlachow@hotmail.com</a><br>
> ><br>
> wrote: <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> From: Joe Lachowski < <a
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jlachow@hotmail.com"
target="_blank">jlachow@hotmail.com</a> ><br>
> <br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate
the<br>
> Nats in 2010?<br>
> <br>
> To: "NSRCA Discussion List"<br>
> <<a
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
> <br>
> Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 8:36 AM <br>
> It really isn't just about<br>
> cutting costs either. It<br>
> is also about other AMA membership complaining about
the<br>
> site not being<br>
> available for their use. You would not believe the
number<br>
> of complaints AMA<br>
> has had about the AMA site being tied up. That is why
the<br>
> overall Nats at the<br>
> site has been shortened in length. <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> If you are on 72, better plan on moving over to SS in
the<br>
> future. I've heard<br>
> rumours that the AMA has been considering making the
AMA<br>
> site SS only in the<br>
> future.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009<br>
> 20:57:16 -0700<br>
> <br>
> From: <a
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com"
target="_blank">homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com</a><br>
> <br>
> To: <a
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
> <br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate
the<br>
> Nats in 2010? <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> This is really funny.<br>
> They want to bring the nats to 2 weeks to cut
costs. I<br>
> am sure they make<br>
> money the way it is. Take this for what it is,
heresay,<br>
> but I heard<br>
> that the members of the club were complaining
that the<br>
> nats takes too much<br>
> of their time away from their field for them
to fly.<br>
> Wasn't the field built<br>
> for a localized nats site? And I'm pretty sure
we<br>
> all paid for it. The ama<br>
> will lose out if they go to a 2 weeks nats
IMO. Wait<br>
> till they see entry's<br>
> decline. <br>
> <br>
> Chris<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> --- On Thu, 7/30/09,<br>
> Tony <<a
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tony@radiosouthrc.com"
target="_blank">tony@radiosouthrc.com</a>><br>
> wrote: <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> From: Tony <<a
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tony@radiosouthrc.com"
target="_blank">tony@radiosouthrc.com</a>><br>
> <br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll -
Relocate<br>
> the Nats in 2010?<br>
> <br>
> To: "' General pattern discussion '"<br>
> <<a
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
> <br>
> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 12:55<br>
> PM <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> That<br>
> is a possibility<br>
> also. AMA is thinking about returning
the NATS to<br>
> a 2 week all-events<br>
> NATS like used to be done. If all events
are<br>
> together, HQ can put all<br>
> costs into one effort. If they are all
split up,<br>
> Each group would<br>
> have more costs to deal with due to the fact
that HQ<br>
> can’t send a group of<br>
> people to every site. <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Tony<br>
> Stillman,<br>
> President <br>
> Radio<br>
> South, Inc. <br>
> 139<br>
> Altama Connector,<br>
> Box 322 <br>
> Brunswick,<br>
> GA 31525 <br>
> 1-800-962-7802<br>
> <br>
> <a href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com/"
target="_blank">www.radiosouthrc.com</a><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> From:<br>
> <a
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
> [mailto:<a
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<br>
> On Behalf Of Tim<br>
> Taylor<br>
> <br>
> Sent:<br>
> Thursday, July 30, 2009<br>
> 3:39 PM<br>
> <br>
> To:<br>
> General<br>
> pattern discussion<br>
> <br>
> Subject:<br>
> Re:<br>
> [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the
Nats in<br>
> 2010? <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> It was done, It was called<br>
> NPAC <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Tim<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> --- On Thu,<br>
> 7/30/09, Bill's Email <<a
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wemodels@cox.net"
target="_blank">wemodels@cox.net</a>><br>
> wrote: <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> From: Bill's Email <<a
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wemodels@cox.net"
target="_blank">wemodels@cox.net</a>><br>
> <br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash
Poll - Relocate<br>
> the Nats in 2010?<br>
> <br>
> To: " General pattern discussion <br>
> " <<a
href="http://us.mc805.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
> <br>
> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 2:06<br>
> PM <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Why not allow the SIGS to do<br>
> their own thing?<br>
> IMAC and NSRCA do not need to share a
site. The LSF<br>
> can find a site for<br>
> the soaring NATS. Pylon knows what
venues work for<br>
> them and so on. FF can<br>
> do their own thing as well. Why tie
soaring and FF<br>
> together and so on??<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Tony wrote: <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Matt:<br>
> <br>
> Yes, it is just difficult to tell if it
is actually<br>
> feasible… The<br>
> problem is that it requires a large site
for<br>
> Pattern/Pylon/IMAC and will<br>
> require another large site for
Soaring/Outdoor<br>
> FF. It may be very<br>
> difficult to actually find places that
can handle<br>
> this group. <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Tony<br>
> Stillman,<br>
> President <br>
> <br>
> Radio<br>
> South, Inc. <br>
> 139<br>
> Altama<br>
> Connector, Box <br>
> 322 <br>
> Brunswick, GA<br>
> <br>
> 31525 <br>
> 1-800-962-7802 <br>
> <br>
> <a href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com/"
target="_blank">www.radiosouthrc.com</a><br>
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