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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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is out there. I am on the AMA Executive Council. There has been a
concern about the NATS for a long time. The AMA site is there for major
events, not local events. The NATS, IRCHA, XFC and others are the type of
events that showcase modeling and are what we want to use the site for.
Many members that attend the NATS have expressed a desire to move the NATS
around. The council is considering this, and is looking into how it could
be done. Many want to see the NATS as a group event like it was 20 years
ago. That may not be possible as finding a site with everything you need
is very difficult in today’s world. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If the NATS does not move and more major
events are added, some local events may not be held at the site any longer due
to time restraints. If a weekend is open, anyone can schedule something
there. A local club event or even something like the D4-D5 shootout is
welcome, as long as dates are available.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>AMA looses money on the NATS. That
is not really a big issue, as competition is part of the mission of AMA.
However, HQ does get a lot of flack from non-competitors about them subsidizing
competition with their dues. Lower number recently in NATS total
attendance is another concern. Pattern is one of the bright spots at the
NATS, but other events are not doing nearly as well as pattern. Awarding
someone a National Champion label is hard to feel good about when there were
only 3 people competing…. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Joe Lachowski<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, July 31, 2009 8:36
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NSRCA Discussion List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>It really isn't just about cutting costs either. It is
also about other AMA membership complaining about the site not being available
for their use. You would not believe the number of complaints AMA has had about
the AMA site being tied up. That is why the overall Nats at the site has been
shortened in length. <br>
<br>
If you are on 72, better plan on moving over to SS in the future. I've heard
rumours that the AMA has been considering making the AMA site SS only in the
future.<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:57:16
-0700<br>
From: homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com<br>
To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>This is really funny.
They want to bring the nats to 2 weeks to cut costs. I am sure they make
money the way it is. Take this for what it is, heresay, but I heard
that the members of the club were complaining that the nats takes too much of
their time away from their field for them to fly. Wasn't the field built for
a localized nats site? And I'm pretty sure we all paid for it. The ama will
lose out if they go to a 2 weeks nats IMO. Wait till they see entry's
decline. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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--- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Thu, 7/30/09, Tony <i><span
style='font-style:italic'><tony@radiosouthrc.com></span></i></span></b>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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From: Tony <tony@radiosouthrc.com><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?<br>
To: "'<st1:PersonName w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>'"
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 12:55 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>That is a possibility also. AMA is
thinking about returning the NATS to a 2 week all-events NATS like used to be
done. If all events are together, HQ can put all costs into one
effort. If they are all split up, Each group would have more costs to
deal with due to the fact that HQ can’t send a group of people to every
site.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Tony Stillman, President</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Radio South, Inc.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Tim Taylor<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 30, 2009
3:39 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>It was done, It was called NPAC<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Tim<br>
<br>
--- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Thu, 7/30/09, Bill's Email <i><span
style='font-style:italic'><wemodels@cox.net></span></i></span></b>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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From: Bill's Email <wemodels@cox.net><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flash Poll - Relocate the Nats in 2010?<br>
To: " <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>
" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 2:06 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Why not allow the SIGS to do their own thing? IMAC
and NSRCA do not need to share a site. The LSF can find a site for the
soaring NATS. Pylon knows what venues work for them and so on. FF can do
their own thing as well. Why tie soaring and FF together and so on??<br>
<br>
<br>
Tony wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Matt:<br>
Yes, it is just difficult to tell if it is actually feasible…
The problem is that it requires a large site for Pattern/Pylon/IMAC and
will require another large site for Soaring/Outdoor FF. It may be
very difficult to actually find places that can handle this group.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Tony Stillman,
President</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Radio South, Inc.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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