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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I support Mike's proposal! While a good deal of this has
been discussed from time to time, Mike's taken the time to think it through and
present a concise format. Good job!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I suppose the support for a finals for Intermediate will
vary - the folks taking on the Nats the first time or two are exhausted after
the current Intermediate format. Probably the "pro" Intermediate folks favor a
finals. Maybe an incentive to move to Advanced?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The banquet item is difficult, it's interferes with
practice during the event and no one would stay after the finals if the menu was
prime rib. As the whole Nats is also a big social event, maybe it isn't
necessary? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Earl</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=drmikedds@sbcglobal.net href="mailto:drmikedds@sbcglobal.net">michael
s harrison</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'General pattern
discussion'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:29
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] FW: nats
format</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> michael s
harrison [mailto:drmikedds@sbcglobal.net] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 29,
2009 3:45 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Don Ramsey'<BR><B>Subject:</B> nats
format<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>After considerable thought and reflection, I would like to
share my views of the nats and the classes flown. I believe we have been
very fortunate to have an excellent group of volunteers that work and
sacrifice to make the nats happen. That group is led by the event
director Dave Guerin, who has worked tirelessly and unselfishly for years at
this job. I believe he has responded to our desires to make this the
best national event possible. With that in mind, there are some changes
I believe we can make that would be a win-win for everyone and reduce the
workload as well. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>They are:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">1.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>Have a finals for advanced<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">a.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>8 finalists<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">b.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>3 rounds<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">c.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>Judged by advanced or intermediate judges(qualified
volunteers)<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">d.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>The site is open so it is not a space
issue<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">e.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>24 flights would take app 3 hours<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">f.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>Do on 4<SUP>th</SUP> day<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">g.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>Count the prelims as a 1000 normalized
score<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">h.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>Count 3 of 4 scores for the winner<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">2.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>Modify masters accordingly<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">a.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>3 round finals<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">b.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>Count prelims as a 1000 normalized
score<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">c.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>Count 3 of 4 for the winner<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">d.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>10 finalists<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">e.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>30 flights about 5.5 hours<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">3.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>Fai<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">a.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>3 rounds final<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">b.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>F-11 flown 1 time<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">c.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>Each unknown(1&2) flown once<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">d.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>Count the semi-final F-11 scores only as a single 1000
normalized score<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">e.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>Count 3 of 4 for the winner<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">f.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>10 finalists<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo2"
class=MsoListParagraph><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">g.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN><![endif]>30 flights about 5.5 hours<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Rationale behind changes:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Advanced <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>This would make for a very exciting and fun event for the
advanced class. It would make the 4<SUP>th</SUP> day a very real part of
the nats for them. This format is totally self contained with no
additional personnel required. It could be started and finished before
the masters and fai is done. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Masters <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Masters is in a real sense an endurance contest. How
many times does someone have to fly the same sequence to prove he is the best
in that class. The present system is 10 times! The only argument
is the equal exposure issue-which may have merit. The system I
propose addresses that issue and takes less time. I raised the number of
finalists to 10 to close the argument that someone is cutout of the finals
because of unequal exposure. Counting the prelim as one of the 4 scores
is, in my opinion a legitimate score to keep-having been earned over a period
of 3 days under a number of variables. Assuming incorrect scoring(bias,
unequal exposure, etc.), the competitor has 3 flights to erase that
concern. Any 3 flights count so the prelims score can be dropped.
<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>FAI<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>The argument for doing 2 Finals pattern is that at the
world event in the semifinals, there is not equal exposure of the pilots and
the pool is so large that conditions can change substantially over the course
of doing the semifinals. This rationale wouldn’t apply at the
nats. The semifinals at the nats is only 2 flights with 20 pilots, using
the prelim score as a 1000 normalized score. Therefore, the 2 F patterns
can be combined to be a score carried over into the finals event. The
finals then becomes a single F pattern and 2 unknowns. Count 3 of 4
scores. I would recommend doing the F schedule first, then the 2
unknowns. I believe all the other pilots would love to see FAI unknown
finals flown by some of the best pilots in the world. It would be a showcase
event. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>To conclude:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>I believe this is a win-win for everyone. We would
add finals to advanced; both the Masters and FAI finals would be shortened;
the best pilots would be showcased; more pilots would be in the finals; fewer
personnel to do the finals. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>There is no perfect system. I am sure there will be
objections of some kind, but I believe this system has real merit and should
be implemented. <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Respectfully<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Mike Harrison<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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