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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I agree, and I would not stay Friday night for a meal.  Too long
a drive and have to recuperate and go back to my real life.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Mike <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>krishlan
fitzsimmons<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FW: nats format<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>If it was wed -sat then a
  long drive home on Sunday (and Monday for us left coasters) then I would need
  a day or two to relax. I would return to work Wed. May work for some, not me.
  I like the tues-frid personally. <o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><em><b><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
  color:#0000BF'>Chris </span></b></em><o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><br>
  <br>
  --- On <b>Thu, 7/30/09, Atwood, Mark <i>&lt;atwoodm@paragon-inc.com&gt;</i></b>
  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>
  From: Atwood, Mark &lt;atwoodm@paragon-inc.com&gt;<br>
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FW: nats format<br>
  To: &quot;General pattern discussion&quot;
  &lt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt;<br>
  Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 6:29 AM<o:p></o:p></p>
  <div id=yiv796568037>
  <div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>There
  in lies the rub.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I
  think MANY would stay if there was a reason to stay.&nbsp;&nbsp; I’d love to
  see the Nat’s start on a Wed, and finish on Saturday (I know…the AMA dictates
  the schedule), but that would take some of the job/vacation pressure off
  trying to get home right away.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If
  day 3 scores were NOT posted (‘cept to announce the finalists…and that would
  just be names, not scores), and there was a serious “event” following Finals
  day, I think MANY would stay as that would end the Nationals for everyone.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The
  Final evening would be a party.&nbsp; Dinner, awards, raffle, etc.&nbsp; No
  one needs to practice, everyone leaves town in the morning.&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As
  it stands now, we all depart over a period of 3 days.&nbsp; FAI starts to
  depart on day 2 if we miss the semi-finals.&nbsp; Int/Adv all leave on day 3
  along with FAI and Masters that miss the cut, the finalists depart either on Day
  4, or many stay the night and leave on day 5.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In
  addition to not having any real celebration (especially for the winners) we
  also lose all of our help.&nbsp; Both formal and informal.&nbsp; Yes, we’re
  low on judges, but pilots lose their callers and helpers.&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If
  a LOT of people needed to stay (those involved in the finals, flying,
  judging, scoring, helping with the banquet, whatever) even more people would
  stay to participate.&nbsp; And you would simply plan for it.&nbsp; The Nats
  would be thought of as a 4 day event and people would schedule
  that.&nbsp;&nbsp; As it stands now, it varies based on how well you fly.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
  nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
  [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John
  Konneker<br>
  <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:56 AM<br>
  <b>To:</b> Discussion List<br>
  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FW: nats format</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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  </div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Good ideas!<br>
  I've flown both Intermediate and Advanced at the Nats and I like the idea of
  a finals&nbsp;added for those two classes...<br>
  a lot!<br>
  I also&nbsp;like the idea of&nbsp;having the banquet at the end of the
  Nats.&nbsp; It really would be a party then!<br>
  ;-)<br>
  To play the devil's advocate...<br>
  How many more than the final eight for those classes would stay for that last
  evening?<br>
  JLK<br>
  &nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>From:
  atwoodm@paragon-inc.com<br>
  To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
  Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:39:21 -0400<br>
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FW: nats format</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’ll
  let other chime in on the masters /FAI stuff, but I’d like to add to Mikes
  comment on Advanced and say we should add both an Advanced Finals, as well as
  an Intermediate Finals.&nbsp; Reduce the finalists to 8, and you’ll have time
  to fit both in on Site 4 on Finals day.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; All the same
  motivations, and it keeps more people around for the last day.&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’d
  really like to see ALL classes finish up on the same day.&nbsp;&nbsp; IF that
  day can be a Friday, or a Saturday…I’d like to see the Banquet CLOSE the
  event rather than be in the middle.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I
  think it would be great if every planned to stay that last day to see
  everyone fly, to help with the final judging, and have a party at the end to
  celebrate everyone’s success.&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As
  it stands now, the only consolidated social event comes on the evening that
  everyone is MOST concerned about getting in a few rounds of practice.&nbsp;
  We’re forced to choose between spending quality time with friends we only get
  to see once a year, or practicing to do our best in THE competition of the
  year that we’ve spent all year prepping for.&nbsp; For FAI, it’s getting a
  flight or two up on the F pattern.&nbsp; In the other classes…it’s your last
  chance to make the finals. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It’s
  a little messed up.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thoughts??</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-Mark</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <div>
  <div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;
  border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color'>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
  nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
  [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>michael
  s harrison<br>
  <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:30 AM<br>
  <b>To:</b> 'General pattern discussion'<br>
  <b>Subject:</b> [NSRCA-discussion] FW: nats format</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  </div>
  </div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <div>
  <div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;
  border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color'>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> michael s
  harrison [mailto:drmikedds@sbcglobal.net] <br>
  <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:45 PM<br>
  <b>To:</b> 'Don Ramsey'<br>
  <b>Subject:</b> nats format</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  </div>
  </div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>After
  considerable thought and reflection, I would like to share my views of the
  nats and the classes flown.&nbsp; I believe we have been very fortunate to
  have an excellent group of volunteers that work and sacrifice to make the
  nats happen.&nbsp; That group is led by the event director Dave Guerin, who
  has worked tirelessly and unselfishly for years at this job.&nbsp; I believe
  he has responded to our desires to make this the best national event
  possible.&nbsp; With that in mind, there are some changes I believe we can
  make that would be a win-win for everyone and reduce the workload as well. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>They are:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>1.</span><span
  style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Have a finals for
  advanced</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
  margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>a.</span><span
  style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>8 finalists</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
  margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>b.</span><span
  style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>3 rounds</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
  margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>c.</span><span
  style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Judged by
  advanced or intermediate judges(qualified volunteers)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
  margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>d.</span><span
  style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>The site is open
  so it is not a space issue</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
  margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>e.</span><span
  style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>24 flights would
  take app 3 hours</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
  margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>f.</span><span
  style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Do on 4<sup>th</sup>
  day</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
  margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>g.</span><span
  style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Count the prelims
  as a 1000 normalized score</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
  margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>h.</span><span
  style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Count 3 of 4
  scores for the winner</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>2.</span><span
  style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Modify masters
  accordingly</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
  margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>a.</span><span
  style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>3 round finals</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
  margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>b.</span><span
  style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Count prelims as
  a 1000 normalized score</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
  margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>c.</span><span
  style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Count 3 of 4 for
  the winner</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
  margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>d.</span><span
  style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>10 finalists</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
  margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>e.</span><span
  style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>30 flights about
  5.5 hours</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>3.</span><span
  style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Fai</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
  margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>a.</span><span
  style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>3 rounds final</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
  margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>b.</span><span
  style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>F-11 flown 1 time</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
  margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>c.</span><span
  style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Each
  unknown(1&amp;2) flown once</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
  margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>d.</span><span
  style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Count the
  semi-final F-11 scores only as a single 1000 normalized score</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
  margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>e.</span><span
  style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Count 3 of 4 for
  the winner</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
  margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>f.</span><span
  style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>10 finalists</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
  margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>g.</span><span
  style='font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>30 flights about
  5.5 hours</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Rationale behind
  changes:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Advanced </span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>This would make
  for a very exciting and fun event for the advanced class.&nbsp; It would make
  the 4<sup>th</sup> day a very real part of the nats for them.&nbsp; This
  format is totally self contained with no additional personnel required.&nbsp;
  It could be started and finished before the masters and fai is done.&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Masters </span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Masters is in a
  real sense an endurance contest.&nbsp; How many times does someone have to
  fly the same sequence to prove he is the best in that class.&nbsp; The
  present system is 10 times!&nbsp; The only argument is the equal exposure
  issue-which may have merit.&nbsp;&nbsp; The system I propose addresses that
  issue and takes less time.&nbsp; I raised the number of finalists to 10 to
  close the argument that someone is cutout of the finals because of unequal
  exposure.&nbsp; Counting the prelim as one of the 4 scores is, in my opinion
  a legitimate score to keep-having been earned over a period of 3 days under a
  number of variables.&nbsp; Assuming incorrect scoring(bias, unequal exposure,
  etc.), the competitor has 3 flights to erase that concern.&nbsp; Any 3
  flights count so the prelims score can be dropped.&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>FAI</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>The argument for
  doing 2 Finals pattern is that at the world event in the semifinals, there is
  not equal exposure of the pilots and the pool is so large that conditions can
  change substantially over the course of doing the semifinals.&nbsp; This
  rationale wouldn’t apply at the nats.&nbsp; The semifinals at the nats is
  only 2 flights with 20 pilots, using the prelim score as a 1000 normalized
  score.&nbsp; Therefore, the 2 F patterns can be combined to be a score
  carried over into the finals event.&nbsp; The finals then becomes a single F
  pattern and 2 unknowns.&nbsp; Count 3 of 4 scores. &nbsp;&nbsp;I would
  recommend doing the F schedule first, then the 2 unknowns.&nbsp; I believe
  all the other pilots would love to see FAI unknown finals flown by some of
  the best pilots in the world. It would be a showcase event.&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>To conclude:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>I believe this is
  a win-win for everyone.&nbsp; We would add finals to advanced; both the
  Masters and FAI finals would be shortened; the best pilots would be
  showcased; more pilots would be in the finals; fewer personnel to do the
  finals.&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>There is no
  perfect system.&nbsp; I am sure there will be objections of some kind, but I
  believe this system has real merit and should be implemented. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Respectfully</span><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Mike Harrison</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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