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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Thanks Dave !</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=DaveL322@comcast.net href="mailto:DaveL322@comcast.net">Dave</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'General pattern
discussion'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:04
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Motor
Mount</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">George,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Motors designed to be
mounted on one end only in airframes with structure strong enough to handle
the substantial cantilevered rotating mass work just fine. Several years
ago, several planes (different designs and manufacturers) with several motor
types had problems with “whirl flutter” and motors broke loose, departed the
plane, or tore the nose off the plane. Having run softmounted,
hardmounted, firewall mounted, nosering mounted, and mounted on both ends,
I’ve found it easiest to control resonances in the plane when the mount is at
both ends, and even better when a softmount is used. A number of guys in
D1 are running the Hacker A60 hardmounted to the nosering with a hardmounted
aft bearing support – which the motor is designed for (Hacker sells a mount,
or you can buy a flange bearing and setup your own aft support
mechanism).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>George W.Kennie<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:48
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Motor
Mount</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=4 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Hi
John,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=4 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Sorry to have to tell you that I
received no replies to my inquiry.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=4 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">I have the feeling that most
people are just not addressing this issue.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=4 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">It would make a great product
for somebody like Jerry or Chris to produce.All that would be required is
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=4 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">an X brace with an oversize
receptacle at center to receive plastic inserts (like props) sized to fit
shaft</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=4 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">bearings.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=4 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Georgie</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">----- Original Message -----
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<P style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4" class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2
face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=jferrell13@triad.rr.com href="mailto:jferrell13@triad.rr.com">John
Ferrell</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern
discussion</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:50 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Motor Mount<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">FWIW:</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I am interested in an answer to
your question too! It sure looks to me like some kind of nose bearing would
be prudent...</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">John Ferrell W8CCW<BR> <BR>"All that is
necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -- Edmund
Burke<BR>...."The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of
other people's money." <BR> MARGARET THATCHER <BR><A
href="http://DixieNC.US">http://DixieNC.US</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=geobet4@verizon.net href="mailto:geobet4@verizon.net">George
W.Kennie</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</A>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
Monday, June 01, 2009 4:54 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
[NSRCA-discussion] Motor Mount<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Hey
Guys,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=4 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">I have a new project in the
works and it involves mounting a 2K watt motor. This will be my first
larger motor install so I felt that some advice from the
Pros</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=4 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">would probably be
appropriate.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=4 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">The Motor is an outrunner
and I can mount it from the back side directly to the firewall OR I
can use standoffs and mount it from the front side of the
motor.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=4 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">I keep feeling that there
needs to be some kind of a stabilizing bearing on the free end as there
portends to be a significant amount of rotating mass if I just
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=4 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">bolt the thing to the
firewall while a pound of motor whirls around with a large prop exerting
inertial rotating energy beyond the front of the cowl. It seems like
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=4 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">If I use the stand-offs,
there will be a more rigid area between the prop and the motor, but then I
worry about the back end. Should I figure out some kind of a
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=4 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">bearing mount on the
firewall?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=4 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Somebody set me straight on
the accepted procedure please. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=4 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Thanks for you
help,</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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