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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>District 4 is a new comer to the “Fly F” on Sunday
plan. As an FAI group, we all agreed that we want, and need to fly it or
we have no hope at the nats. Most of us (Andrew is clearly the exception)
fight for a chance to fly in the semi’s at the nats, if we get a chance
at all. Because of that, we spend the bulk, if not ALL of our time flying
P. When we do squeak in the door, we are abysmal at the F pattern.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>So last fall we basically agreed we would try F at the local
contests. I have to admit, it’s been a challenge to get the F
sequence down, but KNOWING that we’ll be flying it at the first contest
of the year forced us (me at least) to split our time between F and P and learn
it. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I use to be a competitive Masters flyer but since moving to FAI,
2 kids, my own business, blah blah blah, there was never really time to try and
be in the FAI hunt, and any chance of being there has since passed. But I
love to fly, and love the challenge of learning and getting better. So I’ve
welcomed being “forced” to learn F more competently. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I’m sure flying F will dissuade a few from making the jump
to FAI. But if F is part of being in FAI, then I’m not sure
NOT flying it regularly is the answer. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I personally like Earl’s idea of being able to fly what
you can fly (P or F). I’m pretty sure we would all agree to that,
but I’m also pretty sure everyone would at least give F a try. We
all collected our share of wood in the lower classes, and now we fly for
personal accomplishment and trying to beat each other in a more friendly manner
AND prepare for the nats where we hope to test ourselves against the rest of
the group that we don’t see every weekend. Those that are truly
hoping to join in the hunt to make the finals in FAI NEED to fly F and be
judged on it as often as possible. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Besides…Andrew takes home all of the good prizes in D4
anyway. </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>JJ</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Earl
Haury<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 18, 2009 7:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] stirring the pot..;)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Mark</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>They're are
probably different views on this and no one is totally wrong. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>We originally
began flying F on Sunday in D6 so that folks going to the Nats had an
opportunity to get some F experience in competition. It's even more desirable
with the current Nats format allowing for 20 to move from the prelims to the
semi's. When we first did this, it was agreed that anyone who wished could fly
P on Sunday with the P & F scores normalized / combined for round placing, treating
the total as a conventional 5 or 6 round event. I think that this is still the
best way to handle it - the folks flying F simply "handicap"
themselves - but we're out for the experience anyway. It just hasn't been
brought up recently, as everyone now seems to want to fly F.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Rather than
dropping one of 4 P's and one F (it was done this way at Temple), it would be
according the F3A rules to drop one of 4 P's, then normalize the remaining
3 P scores to 1000. The outcome is then determined by the best two of the
(normalized) P score and the two F scores. (Either one F or the P score is
dropped.) However, this doesn't work well when only three P's are flown, nor
when 3 F's are flown as happens at some D6 meets. The FAI F3A rules are
designed for large events and there is no particular rule for the typical local
meet we hold in the US. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>As Dave
mentions, some folks have no interest in learning both sequences and that's
their choice. I do think it's also very good for the game to be able to fly
both if you wish. Hopefully more events will choose to try the above format as
it allows for both interests. Some of us have no interest in attending a meet
if there isn't an opportunity to fly F so, as I said, different preferences are
valid.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>As an aside,
for the last several rules cycles the D6 contests have switched to the new P
schedule after the Nats for the remaining fall events. I hope that we continue
that practice again this year.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Earl</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:flyintexan@att.net"
title="flyintexan@att.net">Mark Hunt</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">pattern discussion</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Monday, May 18, 2009
4:57 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> [NSRCA-discussion]
stirring the pot..;)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I have taken note that since we started flying the F pattern
regularly on Sunday at local contests (couple years now), we have been scoring
it in such a way that it is simply treated as a 6 round contest in which any
combination of the F and P sequences may be the drop rounds. I think the
concensus originaly being that not everyone is comfortable flying the F,
allowing those that only practice the P to be able to drop both F rounds
(usually 2 F rounds on Sunday).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Hypothetically, it could be run and tabulated in such a way
that in a typical 6 round contest of 4 P's and 2 F's, you would drop one P and
one F. More of a Prelims and Finals style.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>It's not any serious concern to me, but I am
curious, what is the concensus among FAI pilots now? Just keep it
the same, or consider changing?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>-mark<o:p></o:p></p>
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