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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Bill,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think flying pattern is 50% competition and 50% social, IMHO. There
are many reasons for this. The podium is small and the pool of competitors
is large. The flying skill and dispersion of coaching is varied across
the nation. Some areas are rich in this, where as other guys must fly by
themselves and try to get club guys to spot them. Contest availabiltiy
varies greatly from distirct to disctirct. Our system of judging can
consistently separate the top 1,2,3 positions over 6 rounds, but is not really
capable of dicerning the difference between two perfect flights that only on
differ by a small percentatge (… we are all humans).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If you miss the social aspect of it, you miss a lot. If
you are looking for a competitive enviornment that tries to get it right, this
is it. If you are looking for truth and justice – get a stop watch
and race something. I am as competitive as the next person and looked at
this from all angles – joy to dissapointment. Having come full
circle, we cannot expect more from our system than it is logically capable of
producing, and need to come to grips with what the realm of possible outcomes
are at a contest. Once you put your name on the line and sign up to
compete you are subject to the full ream of the good and bad of our system. On
the drive home, I mostly want to feel like I had a good time and it was money
well spent. By focusing less on the opininon of this being purley a “competitive”
sport, a little more on the enjoyment part, I find myself enjoying the event
more overall. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Jim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bill
Glaze<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 19, 2009 10:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] stirring the pot..;)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Bob:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Your statement about most of the flyers compete just to have
fun, resonates. Taking Masters as an example, I remember well when there
were over 50 Masters in the Nats. I'm sure that the majority knew they
weren't going to be on the podium when trophies were handed out. Most of
them probably knew it when they left their driveways at home. Still they
went. Seeing friends, getting in some flying, seeing how they stack up
with/against the best we have to offer, the color, excitement, being able to
help out--no use going on and on. Many, many different motivations
for the trouble and expense of attending. And, that probably goes for any
contest; just the motives may change a little. And, I feel the above
statement applies to all classes. As always, just my privately held
opinion.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Bill Glaze<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com"
title="bob@toprudder.com">Bob Richards</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Tuesday, May 19,
2009 9:07 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] stirring the pot..;)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Kris,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I agree. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Now, I am speaking from someone who has not been in the
game for a few years. The last time I went to the NATS was in '95, flying in
FAI after having just moved up from Masters. I thought seriously about whether
I should practice the F sequence or not, and decided that my goal for the
NATS was to make it into the finals. (This was before the semi-finals
format). Four rounds P for the prelims, 2 rounds F for the finals. I spent
all my time practicing the P sequence as a result. Alas, they only took 10
people into the finals, I think I was 15th. At least I was happy I had not
wasted time flying the F schedule. :-)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Yes, competition should be fun. Yes, part of the game is
to separate the "best from the best". But, it should be fun, too. I
think that is why the majority of the fliers participate. Make it too
challenging, then only the best will be left and the rank-and-file fliers at
the local contests may drop out.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>JMHO.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Bob R.<o:p></o:p></p>
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--- On <b>Mon, 5/18/09, krishlan fitzsimmons <i><homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com></i></b>
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<p class=MsoNormal>IMO, for many, the point of flying pattern isn't to go
to the nats. If this was the case, we would have about 125 pattern pilots.
The point of flying pattern to many in my district varies, but not many
want to go to the nats. Now this being said, I do want to go, still in
Masters this year, but next year I will fly FAI. My thought is that if I
want to fly 2 rounds of F at a contest, I can choose to do this, but they
will be my throw away rounds. The pilot who doesn't want to practice F
shouldn't be forced to fly it, or have his rounds thrown away just because
the pilots who go to the nats want local contests flown how the nats are. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I would assume that most FAI nats pilots don't care about
the trophy anyway, so we could judge them all 6 rounds of F if they want.
As a masters pilot, I like judging the F sequence. I support it being
flown, and judged at locals, however, I don't think it should be forced to
be flown at a local. Just my opinion. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Think about this, try the system of flying both
sequences at a contest, now throw in us, or imagine yourself being one of
the masters guys who want to move up. Would you want to be forced to learn
two sequences just to move up and fly a contest? Or be forced to take two
zero rounds because you just moved up and haven't had time to learn two
sequences? Many would stay in Masters I would guess. <o:p></o:p></p>
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