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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Earl,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Good points.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have no desire to change anything about our
current contest setups, but was curious about what others thought.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I hope we fly the new P pattern after the Nats as
well.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mark</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=ejhaury@comcast.net href="mailto:ejhaury@comcast.net">Earl Haury</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 18, 2009 18:07</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] stirring
the pot..;)</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Mark</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>They're are probably different views on this and no one
is totally wrong. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>We originally began flying F on Sunday in D6 so that
folks going to the Nats had an opportunity to get some F experience in
competition. It's even more desirable with the current Nats format allowing
for 20 to move from the prelims to the semi's. When we first did this, it was
agreed that anyone who wished could fly P on Sunday with the P & F scores
normalized / combined for round placing, treating the total as a conventional
5 or 6 round event. I think that this is still the best way to handle it - the
folks flying F simply "handicap" themselves - but we're out for the experience
anyway. It just hasn't been brought up recently, as everyone now seems to want
to fly F.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Rather than dropping one of 4 P's and one F (it was done
this way at Temple), it would be according the F3A rules to drop one of 4
P's, then normalize the remaining 3 P scores to 1000. The outcome is then
determined by the best two of the (normalized) P score and the two F scores.
(Either one F or the P score is dropped.) However, this doesn't work well when
only three P's are flown, nor when 3 F's are flown as happens at some D6
meets. </FONT><FONT face=Arial>The FAI F3A rules are designed for large events
and there is no particular rule for the typical local meet we hold in the US.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>As Dave mentions, some folks have no interest in
learning both sequences and that's their choice. I do think it's also very
good for the game to be able to fly both if you wish. Hopefully more events
will choose to try the above format as it allows for both interests. Some of
us have no interest in attending a meet if there isn't an opportunity to fly F
so, as I said, different preferences are valid.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>As an aside, for the last several rules cycles the D6
contests have switched to the new P schedule after the Nats for the remaining
fall events. I hope that we continue that practice again this
year.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Earl</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=flyintexan@att.net href="mailto:flyintexan@att.net">Mark Hunt</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">pattern discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 18, 2009 4:57
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] stirring
the pot..;)</DIV>
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<DIV>I have taken note that since we started flying the F pattern regularly
on Sunday at local contests (couple years now), we have been scoring it in
such a way that it is simply treated as a 6 round contest in which any
combination of the F and P sequences may be the drop rounds. I think
the concensus originaly being that not everyone is comfortable flying the F,
allowing those that only practice the P to be able to drop both F rounds
(usually 2 F rounds on Sunday).</DIV>
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<DIV>Hypothetically, it could be run and tabulated in such a way that in a
typical 6 round contest of 4 P's and 2 F's, you would drop one P and one
F. More of a Prelims and Finals style.</DIV>
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<DIV>It's not any serious concern to me, but I am curious, what is the
concensus among FAI pilots now? Just keep it the same, or consider
changing?</DIV>
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<DIV>-mark</DIV></DIV>
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